crazymenrunningback

Turntablism is a genre of hip hop where the djs are more important than the mcs, or the djs are just used more than normal. For History Of Turntablism Turntablism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia go to that link. A lot turtablism isn't that good unless your seeing it live (in my opinion) such as "The Invisibl Skratch Piklz". Other Turntablist make music made to be enjoyable on cd such as "Kid Koala" Or "Dj Q-bert". Turntablism Is definitely a acquired taste but once Understood is great.
A couple Turntable Bands

Dj-Qbert
Rob Swift
Kid Koala
Cut Chemist
Mix Master Mike
Beat Junkies

I think that turntablism should have its own genre because I think that real turntable bands don't sound anything like hip hop.

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jackhammer

Original Hip hop was cutting and pasting music though so I would still class it as Hip Hop personally.

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Engine

Until I hear a turntablist who does not have any interest in hip-hop (which I would love to hear, actually) I consider it hip-hop.

bigev

I wouldnt be able to picture a scratch battle tour with 100% Electronica. Aint going to happen. LOL

feedbacker

Well, there are performers like DJ Olive and Otomo Yoshihide who play in more avant-jazz settings that really don't reference hip-hop, but that doesn't necessarily mean they have no interest in it.

Kool_Dude_HaMeR

Making music by mixing samples, and any other form of prerecorded sounds which were not specifically created by the person mixing it, to me is hip-hop (unless the music isn't really being altered from its original form, in which case its just generic DJing and not really part of any genre). If the sound is electronically produced by the use of computer programs or synthesizers I would consider it to be electronica.
although that is a pretty loose definition since people may do both.

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Engine

True and that's sort of what I am saying. Hip-hop heads make turntablism - even if their music doesn't reference hip-hop (though I think most does at least a little). When a jazz musician exchanges his acoustic bass or piano for turntables, I'll be more sold on the idea that it has become a unique genre. I guess Otomo Yoshihide is a move in that direction, though.

Edit: I'm not saying a jazzman can't have interest in hip-hop, either. Hmm.. maybe I should change my vote?

jackhammer

Yes but no matter how far you deviate regarding your sources the basic principles are the same as original hip hop which combined splicing beats and then applying social commentary over the top. It's a form of hip hop and people seem to think that if there is no rapping then it's not hip Hop when many early tracks were instrumental splicings. BTW the last sentence was general and not regarding your post!

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crazymenrunningback

The reason i put electronica in my poll was because on my itunes kid koala is classified under electronica. I was curious to see how many votes it would get and so far none

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jackhammer

i tunes is the yardstick we should measure our tastes at? The whole point of forums like this is to be proud of our non conformity.

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