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Old 04-19-2008, 08:15 PM   #51 (permalink)
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what is this in response to?
A banned guy who said that Tupac should be in the top 3 of everyone's lists.
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Old 04-19-2008, 08:45 PM   #52 (permalink)
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oh

well in that case, proggyman your wrong.

dr.dre's production was fine. And tupac voice is mediocre? really?
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Old 04-19-2008, 08:57 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I listen to rap, but not a whole ton of it, and not much by one artist, but whatever.

1. Public Enemy
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Old 04-19-2008, 09:11 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Why? Mediocre flow, mediocre production...Bad voice...
This says nothing, you repeat this stupid argument for every rap artist you dislike. I realize they're three important aspects but like, well let me this in terms you'd better understand since it's obvious you can't argue hip hop. It's like going into a rock thread and saying "bad guitar, bad bass, bad drums, bad vocals" you're just bashing the most important aspects of the genre to avoid explaining why its bad. So please, if you're going to bash inarguably one of the most important rap artists ever at least provide an intelligent argument of some form.
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:46 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Tupac is an excellent lyricist...And not much else. He's got an average flow, that is occasionally laughable, just listen to California Love. I guess his voice is down to preference but he never seems to do anything with it, like Biggie or Aesop Rock. True, Dre's production was fine, but it couldn't compare to any other rapper with that kind o legendary status. The reason he's held in such high regard is for having 'poetic' lyrics. He's certainly a great lyricist, but like I said, he doesn't have much else.
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Old 04-20-2008, 08:01 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2008, 08:45 PM   #57 (permalink)
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2pac!!!
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:04 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Tupac is an excellent lyricist...And not much else. He's got an average flow, that is occasionally laughable, just listen to California Love. I guess his voice is down to preference but he never seems to do anything with it, like Biggie or Aesop Rock. True, Dre's production was fine, but it couldn't compare to any other rapper with that kind o legendary status. The reason he's held in such high regard is for having 'poetic' lyrics. He's certainly a great lyricist, but like I said, he doesn't have much else.
What exactly is wrong with his flow? Its not about how many words you can cram in per minute, 2pac was a pop artist first and foremost, and his flow was a perfect pop flow.

And what do you mean by not doing anything with his voice? Can you give examples?

2pac represented a new style, but most of his "legendary" status comes from his death, not his "poetic" lyrics. And who do you know who shares the same status as tupac? Biggie comes close, but no one really is as popular.

You seem to just throwing generalizations everywhere, its like me saying aesop rock sucks because his music isn't good...

Tupac may not hold up well in terms of production and lyrics as some more recent artists, but it unfair to compare a man who has been dead over a decade to those guys making music now.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:23 AM   #59 (permalink)
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1. Public Enemy
Favorite Albums: It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back, Fear of a Black Planet, Yo! Bum Rush the Show, Apocalypse 91, How You Sell Soul

2. A Tribe Called Quest
Favorite Albums: The Low End Theory, People Intstinctive Travels, Midnight Maurauders

3. The Roots
Favorite Albums: Things Fall Apart, The Roots Come Alive, Game Theory

4. Aesop Rock
Favorite Albums: Labor Days, Float, None Shall Pass

5. Wu Tang Clan (including GZA and Ghostface Killah)
Favorite Albums: Enter the Wu Tang (36 Chambers), The W
Ghostface Killah: Fishscale, Supreme Clientale, Ironman
GZA: Liquid Swords, Beneath The Surface

6. DJ Shadow
Favorite Albums: Entroducing, The Private Press

7. Del Tha Funkee Homosapien
Favorite ALbums: I Wish My Brother George Was Here, Both Sides of the Brain, Eleventh Hour

8. N.W.A. (Including Dr. Dre and Ice Cube)
Favorite Albums: Straight Outta Compton
Ice Cube: Death Certificate, AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
Dr. Dre: The Chronic

9. Gnarls Barkely
Favorite Albums: St. Elsewhere, The Odd Couple

10. The Fugees/Grandmaster Flash/UNKLE
The Score/The Message/Psyence Fiction
In my opinion, these are the only good album(s) The Fugees, Grandmaster Flash, and UNKLE have done, but they are three of my favorites.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:48 AM   #60 (permalink)
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What exactly is wrong with his flow? Its not about how many words you can cram in per minute, 2pac was a pop artist first and foremost, and his flow was a perfect pop flow.

And what do you mean by not doing anything with his voice? Can you give examples?

2pac represented a new style, but most of his "legendary" status comes from his death, not his "poetic" lyrics. And who do you know who shares the same status as tupac? Biggie comes close, but no one really is as popular.

You seem to just throwing generalizations everywhere, its like me saying aesop rock sucks because his music isn't good...

Tupac may not hold up well in terms of production and lyrics as some more recent artists, but it unfair to compare a man who has been dead over a decade to those guys making music now.
He's not very good, but you can't judge him cuz' he's old! Good point about his death. But that's not really significant. I mean he just raps in a monotone, no tonal changes, nothing. Same with his flow.
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