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Old 04-24-2012, 03:31 AM   #821 (permalink)
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I really don't see it. Don't get me wrong, I love Illmatic, and it is one of my favourite albums, but I think there quite a few that are better.
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:33 AM   #822 (permalink)
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in general or by nas?
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:50 AM   #823 (permalink)
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In general. I would say it's a close second by Nas behind Stillmatic.
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:32 AM   #824 (permalink)
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I really don't see it. Don't get me wrong, I love Illmatic, and it is one of my favourite albums, but I think there quite a few that are better.
Name some debut albums made by an 19 year kid, that are still regarded as canon in hip hop, and that are better/have as many mindblowing tracks as Illmatic... Its place in musical history is undeniable, there hasn't been a debut made since that has even touched it in terms of being lyrically, musically, and ideologically influential to this day.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:40 AM   #825 (permalink)
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I don't think you can discount how ground breaking and outstanding Nas's debut was.
It's a major album in the genre, and to me still signifies Nas's best work.
Not to say that his other albums aren't good, they just don't match the quality of his first.

My favourite Nas releases are as follows;

Illmatic
Distant Relatives (With Damian Marley)
I Am...The Autobiography
It Was Written
Stillmatic
Hip Hop Is Dead
Untitled Album
Nastradamus

Not actually heard the other two, so can't comment.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:59 PM   #826 (permalink)
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Name some debut albums made by an 19 year kid, that are still regarded as canon in hip hop, and that are better/have as many mindblowing tracks as Illmatic... Its place in musical history is undeniable, there hasn't been a debut made since that has even touched it in terms of being lyrically, musically, and ideologically influential to this day.
No point you bring up there has any influence on where Illmatic should be placed in terms of my favourite Hip Hop albums ever.

And both Labor Days and Fantastic Damage are better debut albums.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:21 PM   #827 (permalink)
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I really don't see it. Don't get me wrong, I love Illmatic, and it is one of my favourite albums, but I think there quite a few that are better.
First of all, this is what I'm responding to. Secondly, how is Labor Days a debut? Aesop put out Float and had an underground release in the late 90's before that too if I remember correctly. If you're saying that in your opinion they're better albums that's fine, but I don't believe that either Aesop or El-P are on the same level of Nas in terms of talent or production.
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Sorry, that was totally retarded on my, meant to post Float.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:40 PM   #829 (permalink)
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Mine is:

1. 50 Cent
2. DMX
3. Eminem
4. Jay Z
5. Dj Green Lantern
6. Lil Wayne
7. Chiddy Bang
8. Dead Prez
9. Labrinth
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:03 AM   #830 (permalink)
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1.Nas
2.2pac
3.BIG
4.Jay-Z
5.Eminem
6.Yelawolf
7.Tech N9ne
8.Busta Rhymes
9.La Coka Nostra
10. Hopsin
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Definitely. Every song on Illmatic is ****ing incredible. It is incredibly raw and represents that early 90s new york style hip hop, extremely well. His later stuff sounds more like the crappy, commercial hip hop style that would go on to rule the mainstream hip hop scene for quite some time.
Yeah man, that is what made me discover Nas. I love the song "New York State Of Mind" ahahhaha I listen to it every day, as well as One Mic

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1: Dr. Dre
2: Eminem
3: Game
4: Tupac
5: Notorious B.I.G.
6: Nas
7: Warren G.
8: Jay Z
9: Andree 3000
10: Will.I.Am

Not Listed: Sage Francis, Aesop Rock, Akon, Urban Dance Squad, Wyclef jean, and yes...Ludacris.
Sorry to say but that looks more like the list of members of D12 than the good rappers... You got Em and Jay-z right but thats all. If you made it in that way Eminem should be at the top of the list for sure

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We have like five billion of these floating around in here so I figure I'll have this one stickied and just lock the rest when I come across them, so yeah go!

1. Dr. Octagon
2. Madvillain
3. Deltron 3030
4. cLOUDDEAD
5. Subtle
6. DJ Spooky
7. MF Doom
8. Dose One
9. Busdriver
10. DANGERDOOM
Yeah, sad to say that you suggest these as top 10 rappers, yet they sound like techno, and no one has ever heard of them before except you.. Why dont you learn what rap is and go listen to that **** dawg!

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My Rap and Hip-Hop list:

Coolio
Public Enemy
Everlast
Rage against the Machine (Nu-Metal)
Tupac
Andre 3000

Only six because I'm not much into hip-hop/rap.
Yeah, rage against the machine is pretty dope. They arent anywhere near my top 10 list, after listenign to rap my whole life, but they are pretty tight

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Method Man
GZA
Jay Z
Aesop Rock
Mos Def/Black Star
Raekwon
Inspectah Deck
Pete Rock
The Roots
Wu Tang (obvious, but didnt list right away because I've got a couple of Wu artists in my list.)
There you go, man thats a pretty good list. I F******** LOVE METH|||MAN
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