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Old 01-18-2011, 10:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Well yeah, but I'm saying most. There have always been talented lyricists, but the beats are what have evolved most right? I just don't think that emcees have really been breaking that much new ground, which is not to say that some aren't amazing and fascinating to listen to. All i'm saying is that if you look back on all of hip-hop, the greatest changes have occurred in the beats and rhythms used.
Good point, but I dunno, man. It's kind of hard to say. Lyrical technique has come a long way.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I wish hip-hop artists try something else other than the generic thumpy-thump bass grooves, and songs about asses, crack, and guns. I mean, a lot are, and it's wonderful, but it's not really getting as much exposure as it should.
Yeah, i feel you on this, but mainstream hip hop will probably never come back to life. I think as far as the term "groundbreaking" goes, it can only be applied to the underground (with a few exceptions). I'm pretty sure that most people either aren't intelligent enough to tell or just don't care whether the music they listen to is original in any aspect, so don't expect too much from pop music.
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Hip hop tends to be too specific on aesthetic aspects I think to grow too much. Albeit, I think it's integration into, and effect on other genres is amazing. I suppose the best thing for hip hop is if that it could return to being more experimental. One of the great things of hip hop is you can't really define what makes it instrumentally since it's mostly samples.

Therefore, Hip Hop could theoretically anything that utilizes mostly upbeat spoken word poetry. I wish hip-hop artists try something else other than the generic thumpy-thump bass grooves, and songs about asses, crack, and guns. I mean, a lot are, and it's wonderful, but it's not really getting as much exposure as it should.
Definately. I completely agree.
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:42 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hip hop tends to be too specific on aesthetic aspects I think to grow too much. Albeit, I think it's integration into, and effect on other genres is amazing. I suppose the best thing for hip hop is if that it could return to being more experimental. One of the great things of hip hop is you can't really define what makes it instrumentally since it's mostly samples.

Therefore, Hip Hop could theoretically anything that utilizes mostly upbeat spoken word poetry. I wish hip-hop artists try something else other than the generic thumpy-thump bass grooves, and songs about asses, crack, and guns. I mean, a lot are, and it's wonderful, but it's not really getting as much exposure as it should.
No, no, no. The idea that rapping is the core to something being hip hop is so, so wrong--I mean, hip hop started with the DJ steering the wheels of steel. Hip hop was originally instrumental, technically.
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