Does it also bother you if I say Muthafucka instead of Motherfucker?

not a good example.

if you said mofo instead of motherfucker

:) Yes, much better. Thanks. I'm not sure I've heard 'mofo' enunciated like that in the rap I listen to but it def captures my point better.

Hip Hop is about bastardizing language. It's based upon twisting and spinnin language. The words "hip hop" didn't mean anything at all when the furious five started singing it over records.

At least swag is a word, and is fun to say. Gucci man says "burrr" on his songs and people love it.

Your sounding surprisingly conservative d00d.

who are these people that you are referring to? every time he says it I just cringe. So I just try to avoid his songs as much as possible but then he goes and sticks his nose where it doesn't belong and ends up featuring on tracks by people that I actually DO like.

Still not a good example, nice try :p:

I was getting at was swag and swagger have set, separate definitions, and so to use two words for one definition, the original meaning of the stolen word gets pushed to secondary meaning, and or becomes forgotten.

Mofo is just an abbreviation.
It doesn't have a meaning on its own.

To sum it up, I'm just squirtin tears because the pirate definition of swag is dropping a ranking due to this newfound popularity in hip-hop. No biggie.

I dig pirates.


Conservative? I suppose. That's about as conservative as I get :p:

I was a writing kid. I wrote and wrote. I made it to AP English in high school and whopped it. I took courses in college, etc., so sadly, no matter how I try to loosen its grip, it still influences my nerd rage about grammar, spelling, and bastardization of words unnecessarily.

All together though, we're off topic. So I reiterate: everything's fine, life goes on.

I think, by the way, that that's highly pessimistic Matious. I think hip-hop is more about utilizing language than bastardizing it. Oh ****. The stoner just figured out where the divide between underground and mainstream stands...

I suppose NWA utilized the word nigger to promote it's racist definition.

Their is no context to judge rap music on, they pretty much do whatever they want which is a large part of the appeal

Certainly wasn't a great idea to perpetuate that abominable word. The world would be better off if we (had) let the word '******' fade into obscurity than to put it up front and take the word back only to have it be used in the same derogatory sense.

There is context to judge rap music on. :wavey:
It might be subjective, but don't box yourself into a corner by saying there is no context to judge.

Doing whatever you want? I think Avant-Garde musicians. Even rock and country musicians can do what they want. Rappers didn't invent shock value, or bring it to prominence.

I don't get that bolded statement.

Boxing yourself in would be holding some subjective contexts to judge/base hip hop. If you leave it open and are able to accept that hip hop is ever evolving and there is no correct way for hip hop to be as it blends other genres into hip hop itself.

So because rappers didn't invent shock value, they aren't allowed to use it? is that what you are saying?

Basically, I wasn't saying any of that at all. It's interesting how you can share a point that makes perfect sense in your head, but confuses everyone else...

Saying that "there is no context to judge rap on, they just do what they want" seems silly. I can say the same thing about other genres/musicians. You can judge anything. It's easy... and it's regardless of whether they do what they want or say what they want to say, or chained up in the studio by a label forced to make certain kinds of music. I didn't say anybody couldn't do anything, I said that other people use shock value/do as they please and still get judged.

Alrighty.. back to Kreayshwan..

dubstep beats over strung out suicidal and homicidal lyrics. What's not to love?
I thought you knew..

Way to miss the point entirely. I don't give a **** if someone is making up words, rap me a version of jabberwocky for all I care, I'm just sick of bandwagon jumping and having to hear the same word used the same way by the same type of people in what seems like every song ever.

And the opinions of other rap fans means jack ****. I don't like hearing a single word get pounded into the ground by every artist I hear. If other rap fans are all about hearing the same thing over and over again, then **** other rap fans. Its not like I'm losing sleep over not being friends with someone who can't even appreciate someone stepping outside of an established boundary creatively and do something different.

I'm going to listen to Deltron 3030 now. Because this is awesome:

Be there for the rap battle!
It's going to be interspectacular!
Fantabulous, it'll blow your socks off!
It's one of those things where,
Machine versus man!
Man versus woman!
Woman versus your mother!
Be there!

Intergalactic rap battle!
It's (scratch) instupituous!






And so is this: Deltron 3030 Lyrics by Del The Funky Homosapien

I agree 100%. Who the **** wants to hear this buildabear white girl say swag and talk in ebonics over and over again.

GB, put this in your pipe:

First we coerce your brain patterns
Colaborate with time consume and reprogram it
I apply the flow cannon
The combo so slamin
Automically reconstruct the old canvas
His logic impress
A hypnotic effect
Ya latin patent you could call it a gift
Man he all in the mix nuclear physicist
Geneticlly taylored every bit of this stimulus

3030 s such a good album its absurd.

Agreed. So very, very much.

The context line was mostly in response to you theory of the factor that divides underground and mainstream, which i realize was probably a joke.

All I'm getting at is that it's fine to not like it. Just don't say the use of it is wrong because it doesn't represent the literal definition. Nonsense language is a big part of hip hop/gang culture

SUH-WHOOOOP

Naw, I got your point. I just enjoy making fun of you.

I do I guess.
Also .. guys, check the thread title. Go talk about your decade-old favorites somewhere else.
SWAGGIN

Alright, so, in the original song i posted she said the word "swag" one time.

"i got the swag and its pumping out my ovaries" which is a good line, **** all yall.

You guys are seriously exaggerating the over-use of this word. It seems more like a personal vendetta because she doesn't make traditional conscious rap.

agreed, she isn't even someone who uses it that much, most people here are just attacking her cause of the scene she associates with.

The scene she associates with? Couldn't it be that some of us just think she's not a very good artist? Although every now and then she'll spit something clever, I still find the majority of her stuff just plain annoying. I don't give a shit if she wants to use words like swag, and nigga, just make the context not suck, please.

I listened to one of her songs.

It was okay. Swag coming out of her ovaries had me laughing.... Imagining gold coins and goblets and other assorted treasure waterfalling out of her vag...

She will fit in with and surpass many mainstream artists, but even being from Oakland I can't relate to her words. She's not for me, but luckily for her, there's a big market ready to eat this up...

Exactly!
Thats the perfect way to sum her up :)

She's not terrible, she's not great, but she's kinda refreshing, and the perfect antithesis for a masochistic mainstream rap market.

eh, why i said most, not all. ;)

Touche, good sir.

I wish other people would freestyle over this beat but Wayne does improve it some.

Sorry to be off topic but this is the best place I could think to post this:
Yesterday, for the first time, I witnessed an elderly woman (probably 70-ish) use the word Swag. She was meeting up with a friend and she was wearing a shirt covered in silver sequins. Here's their conversation:

Sequin lady's friend: "Oh my! Look at you sparkling"
Sequin lady: "Haha, that's what [some name] said. She said Gramma, you got SWAG"
Both laugh heartily.

The end.

*cough*There are Kreayshawn nudes on the interwebs*cough*

^where?!?!?!

nvm. I found them

dag tits boys, dag tits.

Best celeb nudie in a while imo

what? I mean I know you like body frames like that and you are underage as well but those pics were taken when she was underage and I can't even.... No thanks.

I even regret looking them up.

Also, she has nothing on Scarlett.

how dare you make this thread about objectifiying women! If you aren't going to discuss her based on her artistic value then get the **** out of this thread. Grow up.




:P

lol @ you

she was like, 16 or 17 in the pictures for sure

don't try to pretend you never find teen girls attractive--doesn't mean you have to approve of your thoughts, but that doesn't mean you don't have them

It's not like she wasn't getting dicked down at that age. Probably by some dudes a lot older.

If she has tattoos and piercings like that then she isn't underage.

Honestly, I think her saying she was underage in the photos was damage control

Idk man it's not like she looks so different than she does now, those pics could be from like less than a year ago. Plus even if she was like 16, it's not like I'm not allowed to think 16 year olds are hot lol.

re-read what I said you are basically same the same thing I did

I don't find teen girls attractive that have boyish figures like hers. I just didn't find those pictures hot at all.