Does it also bother you if I say Muthafucka instead of Motherfucker?

not a good example.

if you said mofo instead of motherfucker

:) Yes, much better. Thanks. I'm not sure I've heard 'mofo' enunciated like that in the rap I listen to but it def captures my point better.

Hip Hop is about bastardizing language. It's based upon twisting and spinnin language. The words "hip hop" didn't mean anything at all when the furious five started singing it over records.

At least swag is a word, and is fun to say. Gucci man says "burrr" on his songs and people love it.

Your sounding surprisingly conservative d00d.

who are these people that you are referring to? every time he says it I just cringe. So I just try to avoid his songs as much as possible but then he goes and sticks his nose where it doesn't belong and ends up featuring on tracks by people that I actually DO like.

Still not a good example, nice try :p:

I was getting at was swag and swagger have set, separate definitions, and so to use two words for one definition, the original meaning of the stolen word gets pushed to secondary meaning, and or becomes forgotten.

Mofo is just an abbreviation.
It doesn't have a meaning on its own.

To sum it up, I'm just squirtin tears because the pirate definition of swag is dropping a ranking due to this newfound popularity in hip-hop. No biggie.

I dig pirates.


Conservative? I suppose. That's about as conservative as I get :p:

I was a writing kid. I wrote and wrote. I made it to AP English in high school and whopped it. I took courses in college, etc., so sadly, no matter how I try to loosen its grip, it still influences my nerd rage about grammar, spelling, and bastardization of words unnecessarily.

All together though, we're off topic. So I reiterate: everything's fine, life goes on.

I think, by the way, that that's highly pessimistic Matious. I think hip-hop is more about utilizing language than bastardizing it. Oh ****. The stoner just figured out where the divide between underground and mainstream stands...

I suppose NWA utilized the word nigger to promote it's racist definition.

Their is no context to judge rap music on, they pretty much do whatever they want which is a large part of the appeal

Certainly wasn't a great idea to perpetuate that abominable word. The world would be better off if we (had) let the word '******' fade into obscurity than to put it up front and take the word back only to have it be used in the same derogatory sense.

There is context to judge rap music on. :wavey:
It might be subjective, but don't box yourself into a corner by saying there is no context to judge.

Doing whatever you want? I think Avant-Garde musicians. Even rock and country musicians can do what they want. Rappers didn't invent shock value, or bring it to prominence.

I don't get that bolded statement.

Boxing yourself in would be holding some subjective contexts to judge/base hip hop. If you leave it open and are able to accept that hip hop is ever evolving and there is no correct way for hip hop to be as it blends other genres into hip hop itself.

So because rappers didn't invent shock value, they aren't allowed to use it? is that what you are saying?