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Old 10-17-2009, 01:32 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I think Kanye is overlooked by his persona and the way he uses auto-tune so much. If you look at a lot of his songs , however, he does have a lot to offer on the lyrical perspective. A lot of his songs have some pretty deep concepts underlying the face value of the lyrics.
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:40 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:54 PM   #123 (permalink)
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How many songs has Kanye made? How many of his songs have auto-tune?

Jesus. He hasn't used it THAT much.
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Old 10-17-2009, 02:47 PM   #124 (permalink)
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I think I can be blamed for the way this thread is sounding. I got off topic in my debate of auto-tune, I wasn't implying that he's a one trick pony, and he does have some good tracks. But he definitely isn't overlooked, at least from a commercial standpoint. There a lot of underrated artists, he isn't one of them.
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Old 10-18-2009, 01:37 AM   #125 (permalink)
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I think I can be blamed for the way this thread is sounding. I got off topic in my debate of auto-tune, I wasn't implying that he's a one trick pony, and he does have some good tracks. But he definitely isn't overlooked, at least from a commercial standpoint. There a lot of underrated artists, he isn't one of them.
yeah I fueled the fire too :P :P

I think he does have one trick pony however I don't know much kanye...

I know he did that harder better faster stronger with daft punk right??all the mainstream people thought he made that up.... someones gotta show me some good kanye. and I still need a good aesop rock album to check out too since everyone on music banters in love with them :P
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:03 AM   #126 (permalink)
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kanye is anything but underrated. If anything he's probably overrated. Still he has some decent songs, at least he's not just another gangster rapper.
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:52 PM   #127 (permalink)
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I understand the point your making and good singing voices will be appreciated. While the talent will still be out there, eventually auto-tune and audio-manipulation software like it will become advanced to the point where we can "create" a good singing voice out nothing, or out of a random voice that says some lyrics. I think music will follow a path much like we see with photo-enhancement software creating unrealistic standards for magazine ads out of good looking but average women. While "auto-tune" as it exists now will likely burn out and die(According to Jay-Z) I think that programs like it will continue to be a force in music. And yes, for the most part before the current outbreak of auto-tune and vocoder, it was used much more modestly to tweak the pitch slightly to make it sound more appealing.
I dunno, I just don't think the general public (even the part that listens to anything popular ((me)) ) will just swallow something fake in place of general talent. I just feel it, up in my heart.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:35 AM   #128 (permalink)
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yeah I fueled the fire too :P :P

I think he does have one trick pony however I don't know much kanye...

I know he did that harder better faster stronger with daft punk right??all the mainstream people thought he made that up.... someones gotta show me some good kanye. and I still need a good aesop rock album to check out too since everyone on music banters in love with them :P
If you want good Kanye West, get The College Dropout. The production is hot and colorful, and he proves himself as a charismatic rapper. Plus, he raps one song (Through the Wire) with his jaw wired shut after a car accident. The whole album is solid.

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Really, I still think Labor Days is the most wholesome Aesop Rock experience. Some might disagree and say Float (which is almost as good, it just doesn't excite me as much at points. But it has some of my favorite Aesop Rock songs.) Either way, both are excellent. Oh, and don't listen to the people who say any Aesop Rock album is bad, he's one of the most consistent artists there is.

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Old 10-21-2009, 04:40 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Kanye is a beast at making beats, at rappin the dude is just aight.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:42 PM   #130 (permalink)
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this is what irks me. All these big rappers (not Jay-Z big...Jay is a diff category) who are big time right now...will be forgotten.

Kanye has made some sick music but I doubt very seriously if 10 years from now anybody is gonna be all gung ho about him the way they are now.

just my two cents
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