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Jester 04-22-2012 01:35 AM

f/uck your east vs west coast debate
 
whack as fuck argument, seriously. especially nowadays? jesus christ

Engine 04-22-2012 02:20 AM

Whack as fuck - agreed.
Additionally and especially among those who don't know the difference like this.

Sparky 04-22-2012 03:04 AM

im sayin bro im the only one whos coming with good threads lately

Goofle 04-22-2012 05:30 AM

It's a great debate, stop being cry babies.

Howard the Duck 04-22-2012 05:31 AM

i still listen to a lot of Death Row, in case anybody's wondering

Goofle 04-22-2012 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1181120)
Whack as fuck - agreed.
Additionally and especially among those who don't know the difference like this.

And what does that mean? I was listing West Coast Hip Hop artists that I enjoy.

If you don't wanna have the debate, don't have it. Easy enough.

Jester 04-22-2012 09:45 AM

how the hell is it a great debate in 2012?

midnight rain 04-22-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1181195)
how the hell is it a great debate in 2012?

...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1181153)
If you don't wanna have the debate, don't have it. Easy enough.


Goofle 04-22-2012 10:02 AM

It's something to discuss. Do you generally enjoy artists who are from the east or the west.

Obviously there isn't much difference between the music at this point, but its worth chatting about.

Better than nothing.

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Phantom Limb 04-22-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1181108)
whack as fuck argument, seriously. especially nowadays? jesus christ

I know, right? Now it's more of an East vs. West vs. Midwest vs. Canada vs. Mexicans vs. UK vs. everyone else. Get it right people!

Sparky 04-22-2012 05:22 PM

I've been saying for a long time there needs to be some kind-off topographical map for rappers locations.

It could include poverty levels as well as popular dance moves from said area, ie "jerk-movement terrority"

Key 04-22-2012 06:36 PM

I think there's a wealthy amount of good information for a good debate coming from talking about the east and west coast. It's just like discussing different bands in genres.

14232949 04-23-2012 12:02 PM

People wanting to compare artists on a music forum? Surely not...

Goofle 04-23-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant (Post 1181635)
People wanting to compare artists on a music forum? Surely not...

^^^^^

Sparky 04-23-2012 02:45 PM

but your comparing outdated artists based on an outdated perception of their geographical "allegiance" so-to-speak.

It's not relevant to the artists, the genre, or to the fans anymore. It was an effective media ploy from two decades ago.

Goofle 04-23-2012 02:53 PM

I am not even having the debate, I just listed the West Coast rappers I like from the list available on Wikipedia.

I know there is no real difference, just a matter of how many happen to be from which coast, and the blind luck of them being better in your eyes.

But I don't see it as being "outdated" at all. We talk about old music all the time, it's part of the forum.

Sparky 04-23-2012 02:59 PM

I see what your saying, similar to comparing Chicago style jazz to new Orleans or something.

Difference is it was a smaller world, and as a result more clear distinctions in sound and character.

East vs West is just so general, and really only revolves around a handful of artists anyway (snoop, pac, biggie), it's just a really trite debate.

midnight rain 04-23-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1181689)
I see what your saying, similar to comparing Chicago style jazz to new Orleans or something.

Difference is it was a smaller world, and as a result more clear distinctions in sound and character.

East vs West is just so general, and really only revolves around a handful of artists anyway (snoop, pac, biggie), it's just a really trite debate.

Well it's better than asking whether people prefer American music or British (which doesn't even specify a genre), but we have a thread for that debate.

14232949 04-23-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1181694)
Well it's better than asking whether people prefer American music or British (which doesn't even specify a genre), but we have a thread for that debate.

Was going to mention this. There's also a Beach Boys Vs Beatles thread.
That's apparently not a stupid conversation to have.

Engine 04-23-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1181694)
Well it's better than asking whether people prefer American music or British (which doesn't even specify a genre), but we have a thread for that debate.

How's it better?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mankycaaant (Post 1181760)
Was going to mention this. There's also a Beach Boys Vs Beatles thread.
That's apparently not a stupid conversation to have.

Haha, is that really so apparent?
Alright then, I'll play: Swollen Members are terrible and Public Enemy are great. Discuss. Start a new thread if need be.

midnight rain 04-23-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1181777)
How's it better?

Sparky was pointing out how broad and vague a discussion east vs west would be, and how it would make for a useless debate because of this.

I just gave an example of an even more broad and vague discussion on this site, which still seemed to generate plenty of interest.

Engine 04-23-2012 07:17 PM

I don't think you answered my question.

Anyway, no takers on Swollen Members vs. Public Enemy? It could be a great thread. Maybe make a poll?

midnight rain 04-23-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1181828)
I don't think you answered my question.

Well maybe 'better' was the wrong choice of words. I think you see what I meant.

Goofle 04-24-2012 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1181828)
I don't think you answered my question.

Anyway, no takers on Swollen Members vs. Public Enemy? It could be a great thread. Maybe make a poll?

Go for it. Remember to add a few hilarious poll options, besides Swollen Members.

14232949 04-24-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1181777)
Haha, is that really so apparent?
Alright then, I'll play: Swollen Members are terrible and Public Enemy are great. Discuss. Start a new thread if need be.

It's dragged on for enough pages. Enough people have obviously given their time to add to the thread.

Public Enemy. Just coz.

The Batlord 04-24-2012 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1181777)
Alright then, I'll play: Swollen Members are terrible and Public Enemy are great. Discuss. Start a new thread if need be.

Knave. They made this video, ergo, they make Baby Jesus happy.

Engine 04-24-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1182083)
Knave. They made this video, ergo, they make Baby Jesus happy.

Hey guess what. You can use your internet machine to watch actual porn and (now here's the best part) you don't even have to listen to shitty hip-hop while you indulge!

jackhammer 04-24-2012 05:15 PM


Key 04-24-2012 05:20 PM

What in the world happened to this thread? And why hasn't it been locked yet?

They don't want an east coast vs west coast thread, yet the irony is that this thread still exists.

I even tried to break up tension to make an actual east coast vs west coast thread, though it didn't go too well.

But damn.

Jester 04-24-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1182202)
They don't want an east coast vs west coast thread, yet the irony is that this thread still exists.

> implying that debating over whether or not the debate is worthwhile isn't a discussion in itself

Key 04-24-2012 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1182288)
> implying that debating over whether or not the debate is worthwhile isn't a discussion in itself

So then why bother making a thread to have a discussion against it? Makes absolutely no sense.

Jester 04-24-2012 08:44 PM

why does it make no sense to discuss the opinion that "this debate is stupid"?

you're acting like a negative opinion shouldn't be discussed

"IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT"

Key 04-24-2012 08:54 PM

I never said that. But the debate in this thread is the same debate that you're trying to debate against. So your thread is counter productive.

Jester 04-24-2012 08:56 PM

i forgot that i control what people choose to post

Key 04-24-2012 08:57 PM

Well you kind of do considering you did start the thread.

Jester 04-24-2012 09:03 PM

yeah

if someone makes a thread and people come in and talk about something else, it's the OP's fault

you're tripping anyway.. no one's doing the east coast vs west coast thing in here, they're mostly talking about why they think it's a worthwhile debate or not

anticipation 04-24-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1182314)
I never said that. But the debate in this thread is the same debate that you're trying to debate against. So your thread is counter productive.

how is the thread counter productive if the entire point of it was to discuss how the debate is nonsense? it's taking a commonly debated argument and exposing the silliness of it. you don't really get the whole forum thing do you? there is no such thing as a "productive" or "counter productive" thread, we're just people talking about all things music...

Key 04-24-2012 09:04 PM

Nah forget it. I'm gonna drop it. Do what you want.

midnight rain 04-24-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1182320)
yeah

if someone makes a thread and people come in and talk about something else, it's the OP's fault

you're tripping anyway.. no one's doing the east coast vs west coast thing in here, they're mostly talking about why they think it's a worthwhile debate or not

I'm of the opinion that this thread has made for a worthless debate.


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