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Old 05-13-2012, 02:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Not a huge Action Bronson fan to be honest, but you are right, pretty disheartening to see him on that track.
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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What I don't get is why he is wearing goggles. Dude needs to rap about chemistry before I'll take him seriously.
You know the goggles are totally bitchin'. You just don't want to admit it.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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way, way too little for me to handle.

I may not know the intangibles of what he's going to do next, but i can predict it's going to be equally wack.
nope.. Riff Raff's somewhere between Kool Keith and Lil B but is his own creation..

hip hop isn't dead, but hip hop fans are getting boring.

RiFF RaFF is dope, why do you consider him whack?


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I really don't like that Action Bronson hangs out with this dude.
Riff Raff could rap circles around Action Bronson.. he killed him on Bird on a Wire
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Riff Raff could rap circles around Action Bronson.. he killed him on Bird on a Wire
To say he killed him is giving him too much credit, all he did was rap faster. That definitely wasn't the best AB verse, but everything else by him is leagues better than anything I've heard from Riff Raff. This dude is soooooo corny man, the MTV and BET tattoos should be a dead give away.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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nope.. Riff Raff's somewhere between Kool Keith and Lil B but is his own creation..
I can see negative aspects of both in his fake persona sure.
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hip hop isn't dead, but hip hop fans are getting boring.
So arbitrary. Hip Hop fans are more accepting now than ever, I'm fairly certain hip hop fans wouldn't let someone like Riff Raff have a career two decades ago.


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RiFF RaFF is dope, why do you consider him whack?
This whole "it's okay to make incredibly stupid rap as long as you are self-aware and joking" thing needs to end with lil b. Riff Raff is not a good rapper, he's a dude who's thirsty for an entertainment career, his rap is above awful because he has spent so much time practicing. It's the equivalent of that retarded bench player on that basketball team who came in and shot a bunch of three's at the end of one game. Yeah he can shoot the three some times but he's still retarded.

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Old 05-13-2012, 08:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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To say he killed him is giving him too much credit, all he did was rap faster. That definitely wasn't the best AB verse, but everything else by him is leagues better than anything I've heard from Riff Raff. This dude is soooooo corny man, the MTV and BET tattoos should be a dead give away.
he didn't "just rap faster".. his alliteration smacked the piss out of Bronson, the texture of that delivery was ill. and his lyrics were cooler.. plus, the way he went out was more stylish than Bronson's ever been in his life. "cause a storm in sunny weather, in sunny weather, in sunny weather... hopin' that my days get hopin' hopin' days get days get better" was delivered with perfection

Bronson always raps the same and his character gets old as hell.. sounds like Ghostface with a less relentless flow and he raps about exotic women and food.. and most of the production he gets on blows

and jfc @ "dude has MTV and BET tattoos, obviously his music sucks." a white dude with BET tattoos? only Riff Raff can pull that off.. "they say riff raff just actin' black, he wildin' on 'em... oh i get it, you just mad cause i'm stylin' on em..."

Riff Raff knows what he's doing.. you guys are too caught up in how he looks.

Riff Raff >>> snobby intellectual rap.. he's actually entertaining as hell

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I can see negative aspects of both in his fake persona sure.
you're looking at it the wrong way

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So arbitrary. Hip Hop fans are more accepting now than ever, I'm fairly certain hip hop fans wouldn't let someone like Riff Raff have a career two decades ago.
there's a certain truth to that, but not totally, i'm talking about the "die-hard" hip hop heads.. the people who post comments on underground hip hop youtube videos saying "this is real hip hop not like Lil Wayne" and "why doesn't this have more views?! smh"

people forget how nerdy and silly classic hip hop could be.. and how rap started off as fun party music for entertainment..

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This whole "it's okay to make incredibly stupid rap as long as you are self-aware and joking" thing needs to end with lil b. Riff Raff is not a good rapper, he's a dude who's thirsty for an entertainment career, his rap is above awful because he has spent so much time practicing. It's the equivalent of that retarded bench player on that basketball team who came in and shot a bunch of three's at the end of one game. Yeah he can shoot the three some times but he's still retarded.
Riff Raff's not nearly as stupid as you think.. dude often says some seriously creative, outlandish shit. you people act like absurdity isn't interesting or amusing.. or, it can be if it either 1. already has respect or 2. comes off as "intellectual"

yeah, Riff Raff isn't trying to paint a goddamn world like Aesop Rock.. but his music is a lot more fun than Aesop Rock's, and there's a time and place for everything.

as far as Riff Raff being bad at rapping? yeah right.. he's mad versatile in his flows, he's got styles for days, and his cadence is always on point. plus, he actually has real presence

you don't know how long he's been practicing or whatever.. and saying "yeah he practiced for a long time he sucks" is just silly

also, what the hell does a retarded athlete have to do with music.. that's such a flawed analogy it's not even funny. you're saying that if a retard makes good music, it doesn't matter because at the end of the day he's still a retard? it's about the end product.. you're sounding like those people who are like "i don't care how good your beats are, if you make them using software and not an MPC, that's whack"

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Old 05-13-2012, 09:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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he didn't "just rap faster".. his alliteration smacked the piss out of Bronson, the texture of that delivery was ill. and his lyrics were cooler.. plus, the way he went out was more stylish than Bronson's ever been in his life. "cause a storm in sunny weather, in sunny weather, in sunny weather... hopin' that my days get hopin' hopin' days get days get better" was delivered with perfection
Would you be willing to provide 5 more examples of Riff Raff's perfected delivery? I'm just curious.
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Bronson always raps the same and his character gets old as hell.. sounds like Ghostface with a less relentless flow and he raps about exotic women and food.. and most of the production he gets on blows
Bronson gets fairly introspective. The fact that he can be compared to ghost face, even in the sense of imitating, makes him remarkably better than riff raff.


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Riff Raff knows what he's doing.. you guys are too caught up in how he looks.
I don't doubt it, notice how I used the words "self aware" to describe his style earlier. I just still believe it's super awful.
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Nobody is comparing him to snobby intellectual rap, he is still awful even compared to other awful rap.



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there's a certain truth to that, but not totally, i'm talking about the "die-hard" hip hop heads.. the people who post comments on underground hip hop youtube videos saying "this is real hip hop not like Lil Wayne" and "why doesn't this have more views?! smh"

people forget how nerdy and silly classic hip hop could be.. and how rap started off as fun party music for entertainment..
Digital Underground was silly but still way better musically than this bro.


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Riff Raff's not nearly as stupid as you think.. dude often says some seriously creative, outlandish shit. you people act like absurdity isn't interesting or amusing.. or, it can be if it either 1. already has respect or 2. comes off as "intellectual"
Nobody is saying this. I like lil b, odd future, spaceghostpurrp.

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yeah, Riff Raff isn't trying to paint a goddamn world like Aesop Rock.. but his music is a lot more fun than Aesop Rock's, and there's a time and place for everything.
Why do you keep making these comparisons? Riff Raff is bad compared to his contemporaries (lil debbie, lil b the bay area scene in general)
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as far as Riff Raff being bad at rapping? yeah right.. he's mad versatile in his flows, he's got styles for days, and his cadence is always on point. plus, he actually has real presence
This is why i'm hoping you'll give some more examples of his always-on-point cadence.
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also, what the hell does a retarded athlete have to do with music.. that's such a flawed analogy it's not even funny. you're saying that if a retard makes good music, it doesn't matter because at the end of the day he's still a retard? it's about the end product.. you're sounding like those people who are like "i don't care how good your beats are, if you make them using software and not an MPC, that's whack"
I guess monkeys with typewriters would have been a better analogy. I'm saying just because he has an occasional DECENT verse doesn't mean he's actually good. I mean if you just keep rapping without reason all day your going to occasionally get lucky. Just how the kid practiced his 3 ball to perfection doesn't mean he can actually play basketball.
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Riff Raff's not nearly as stupid as you think.. dude often says some seriously creative, outlandish shit. you people act like absurdity isn't interesting or amusing.. or, it can be if it either 1. already has respect or 2. comes off as "intellectual"

yeah, Riff Raff isn't trying to paint a goddamn world like Aesop Rock.. but his music is a lot more fun than Aesop Rock's, and there's a time and place for everything.

as far as Riff Raff being bad at rapping? yeah right.. he's mad versatile in his flows, he's got styles for days, and his cadence is always on point. plus, he actually has real presence

you don't know how long he's been practicing or whatever.. and saying "yeah he practiced for a long time he sucks" is just silly

also, what the hell does a retarded athlete have to do with music.. that's such a flawed analogy it's not even funny. you're saying that if a retard makes good music, it doesn't matter because at the end of the day he's still a retard? it's about the end product.. you're sounding like those people who are like "i don't care how good your beats are, if you make them using software and not an MPC, that's whack"
Riff Raff has no flow whatsoever, his rhymes sound like a dyslexic person reading nonsensical rap lyrics in his head. I'll give you that it's entertaining, but his cadence, his voice, his subject matter, and his entire persona is just a poor mimicry of what southern rappers and gangster rappers pioneered over a decade ago. The only reason he does what he does is because he was brought up to think it's "cool" and will make you rich. He has no talent, and the music he makes is near unlistenable.
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listen to Larry Bird and tell me that he's not riding the beat.. listen to Jose Canseco and tell me that he's not riding the beat.. go listen to Bird on a Wire and say there's no rhythm in that flow.. you're tripping

and his rhymes sound like "a dyslexic person reading nonsensical rap lyrics in his head"? i don't even know what to say to that.. you obviously listened to like 3 tracks only one time, didn't like his image, maybe his voice, maybe thought "wow this is one of those 'swag' rappers, obviously this is dumb."

if you listened to him more you'd see the consistencies in his subject matter.. dude has character and it's interesting to enter the bizarre mind of Riff Raff. like i said, he's somewhere between Kool Keith's absurdity and Lil B's silly swag, and it's a dope blend. and if you actually listened to it without thinking "god this guy looks and acts annoying in my opinion" you'd hear that he has some serious rhythm and expresses it in a lot of different ways..

if you can't see the fun in Riff Raff, you guys are just taking it way too seriously, on some "hey! this isn't providing me with profound insights! this isn't thought provoking rap about life!"

like i said, there's a time and place for everything.. there's a time to eat your wheaties but it's okay to have a slice of pizza and a soda once in a while.

variety is the spice of life, fellow knuckleheads
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Here dude, let me try to exemplify what im saying.
Kool A.D. raps absolute non-sense for about 3 minutes. Thematically it's about as absent of anything like Riff Raff, but still because he can actually rap and flow it's engaging to listen to. Riff Raff doesn't have that ability.

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