The Official 'Ice Cube Doesn't Get The Credit He Deserves' Thread

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

If they're really into the genre I'd imagine they would know.


As I indicated above, I think that may be very dependant on the age of the person you're talking to.

Janszoon I respect your opinion but I disagree with this.


I think the music taste and interest of a Hip Hop fan is greatly impacted on their age and what they have and have not been exposed to. Now of course there are exceptions but do you honestly think the average 13 year old is going to be aware of the impact Ice Cube has had on Hip Hop? Do you even think they would know that he is a rapper and not just an actor?

[Rjinn]

I don't understand. You're saying you don't expect a 13 year old to know the history of hip hop because of their age, yet he's underrated for that reason?

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Maybe this is a difference in our ages or the counties we live in, but I think he absolutely would be mentioned by casual hip hop fans as one of the greats because he is a household name.

Maybe it is. If I were to ask say twenty random people I know, roughly my age, I'd get answers like Jay z, Kanye, Eminem, 2pac and so on. I'd be genuinely surprised if they mentioned ice cube.

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke

Maybe it is. If I were to ask say twenty random people I know, roughly my age, I'd get answers like Jay z, Kanye, Eminem, 2pac and so on. I'd be genuinely surprised if they mentioned ice cube.

Yeah but if you asked for a top 10 list he'd be included.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

Yeah but if you asked for a top 10 list he'd be included.

I'm not sure he would to be honest. But this is impossible to prove.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

Janszoon I respect your opinion but I disagree with this.


I think the music taste and interest of a Hip Hop fan is greatly impacted on their age and what they have and have not been exposed to. Now of course there are exceptions but do you honestly think the average 13 year old is going to be aware of the impact Ice Cube has had on Hip Hop? Do you even think they would know that he is a rapper and not just an actor?

Yes, I do think they'd know. When I was a thirteen year old rock fan I was well aware of all the classic rock artists that had a big impact on rock music, I see no reason to think a thirteen year old hip fan would be any different with regards to hip hop.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke

Maybe it is. If I were to ask say twenty random people I know, roughly my age, I'd get answers like Jay z, Kanye, Eminem, 2pac and so on. I'd be genuinely surprised if they mentioned ice cube.

Right, like if you asked twenty people my age what rock/metal bands they like, you'd probably hear a lot of Slipknot, A7X, Lamb Of God, Killswitch Engage, Korn etc.

Doesn't mean that The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are underrated, or that the average "casual" rock fan wouldn't know who they are. I think there's a significantly better argument that they're overrated, or at least that they get the respect that they deserve. Ice Cube may not actually be a "household name" today, but it's mostly because the genre isn't anywhere near as popular as it once was, but I still think he is a household name, even if he isn't as relevant as he used to be.

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Doesn't mean that The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are underrated, or that the average "casual" rock fan wouldn't know who they are. I think there's a significantly better argument that they're overrated, or at least that they get the respect that they deserve. Ice Cube may not actually be a "household name" today, but it's mostly because the genre isn't anywhere near as popular as it once was, but I still think he is a household name, even if he isn't as relevant as he used to be.

He is still a household name because of the movies he has been in and continues to put out but as far as music. He hasn't released anything music-wise in so long. If he continually put out music, he would gain new fans that would go back into his discography and check out this other work.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Right, like if you asked twenty people my age what rock/metal bands they like, you'd probably hear a lot of Slipknot, A7X, Lamb Of God, Killswitch Engage, Korn etc.

Na that's not what I said.

If you asked casual hip hop fans their opinions on greatest rappers ever

Doesn't mean that The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are underrated, or that the average "casual" rock fan wouldn't know who they are. I think there's a significantly better argument that they're overrated, or at least that they get the respect that they deserve. Ice Cube may not actually be a "household name" today, but it's mostly because the genre isn't anywhere near as popular as it once was, but I still think he is a household name, even if he isn't as relevant as he used to be.

I'm not saying he's underrated or that the casual fan doesn't know who Ice Cube is or haven't heard of him mate, I'm saying I don't think he'd be included in many top 10s of people I know around my age in this country. And I don't think Ice Cube would give a shit either since anyone who actually knows their stuff rates him.

DJ says he's a household name cos of his films, I'm not a film buff but I would struggle to name more than one film he has been in. Boyz In The Hood, there was a kid's film he did a few years ago and that's all I know tbh. I would say people like Will Smith, Natalie Portman, Angelina Jolie, Johnny Depp etc are household names in movies not Ice Cube. If you're asking who the most famous actors are now Ice Cube would not be someone I think of.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

He is still a household name because of the movies he has been in and continues to put out but as far as music. He hasn't released anything music-wise in so long. If he continually put out music, he would gain new fans that would go back into his discography and check out this other work.

Yup, yup. My point exactly.

He isn't very relevant in the music industry today, and the last song that I remember him being a part of that was a big deal, was "Go To Church" with Lil Jon and Snoop. Not sure what he's released since, but that was actually a pretty big hit back in about '06. I admittedly don't pay much attention to him anymore, and I barely paid any attention to him back then, the only reason I know the song is because it was on the radio all the time.

He is a pretty big deal, and a household name musically a lot more than he is as an actor. I don't think I know anyone who doesn't know who Ice Cube is, or anyone who doesn't know that his primary body of work is as a rapper.