Why is modern Hip-Hop music, aswell as mainstream pop so hated by people?

DwnWthVwls · 11-13-2014, 12:13 PM

Fair enough. My point still remains that they are all elements of the beat as a whole, correct? Idk, how it is for other genres but when you hear people say "That's a dope beat" they are talking about the entire product. They might go on to say "The bass line is sick" or "I love the snares" or whatever else but the "beat" is all inclusive.

Not to mention that he completely ignored my question, accused me of something I didn't do, and then acted like the condescending ass he usually is. I asked a question to promote discussion and admited in the very first sentence of my post I am naive to the topic.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 11-13-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Not to mention that he completely ignored my question, accused me of something I didn't do, and then acted like the condescending ass he usually is. I asked a question to promote discussion and admited in the very first sentence of my post I am naive to the topic.

How the hell was I condescending?
I wasn't questioning his or anybodies definition of the meaning of the word melody I was just curious as to why in DYCDTTS case when he talked about it he didn't mention what I considered for the most part the most melodic part of that music.

If I didn't have an answer your question it's because I wasn't disagreeing with you and felt that if his definition of 'beat' is what you say it is and different to mine then DYCDTTS can tell me that if he wants to and clarify my question himself.

And I don't recall criticising you for saying anything, all I said was that the dictionary definition wasn't needed in this case because I wasn't arguing that point.

**Janszoon** · 11-13-2014, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Fair enough. My point still remains that they are all elements of the beat as a whole, correct? Idk, how it is for other genres but when you hear people say "That's a dope beat" they are talking about the entire product. They might go on to say "The bass line is sick" or "I love the snares" or whatever else but the "beat" is all inclusive.

You're right that it is used that way colloquially in hip hop circles, but that's not what the word "beat" means in a general musical sense. The beat is what you bob your head to, it's simply the underlying pulse of the song. Melodies are sequences of notes that work with the framework of the beat, but that doesn't mean the whole shebang is all "the beat".