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Old 12-12-2014, 08:10 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Just say it isn't music.


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Just admit that it's music.
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:15 AM   #42 (permalink)
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If rap isn't music, then your definition of music is far too small. Beyond this, you should check into your ego and make sure it's not running wild.

You're saying certain times of music (which I think is boring, uninspired garbage, by the way) are more fruitful - which is fine on its face - but then you attempt to align your opinions with the definition of music so you can impose your will on other people and make them admit that the thing they like (Rap in this case) isn't music.

The question is not "is rap music," sir. But "are you Hitler?"
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:17 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Get over it dude.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:48 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Like I said, liking it and considering it music are two very different things. You're also leaving out a wealth of emcees who put a lot of thought into their lyrics, not every hip hop artist spends every track talking about money and hoes. You're not going to listen because you have your mind made up, but here's a verse from "Soft Places" by Armand Hammer. Doesn't sound like dumb literature to me.

Sold it
Rash moment
Those beans better've been magic homie
"Gotta have hope jack!"
Go ahead and quote it
Smile broken when they broke in
Blind how they stole him
Rip un-woken
Fog rolling off the ocean
Wandering rōnin lay down prepared to meet that fine little pony
Looping Saharan cellphone music
Greets the retreating Romans
Rope and limb, woods dark
Trees groaning
Then he rose and wept without knowing
This is from a death metal song...

Between the Buried and Me-Prequel to the Sequel

The headless lover of three...
an unspeakable affair...
The lady on the hill creates a glorious departure from her everyday, her everyday life.
Constant swelling of the ankles...
A pleasant cry for help...
A pleasant cry for help...
A pleasant cry for help...
She began to unfold her story.
A grieving widow mothered this headless wonder.
A perfect crime, that soon lived on.
A different life it had to develop...
Gripped by every limb it could hold, the lifeless ideas, it grew onto its own.
A much needed surrender.
Trees soon started to grow from what seemed a lifeless neck...
From a monster to a beauty in quick months...
its life seemed to be on its way to a rare freedom.
It decided it should take advantage, advantage of this idea, of this idea.
A mixture of plantings soon took course in its body...
A spectacle none-the-less.
Walking proud through life, letting its branches guide the way.
A path which seemed to be covered in sunshine...
It must be human, for its qualities seem to outdo even the grandest occupant of the town...
This started to catch the attention of the un-branched...
It had never experienced an affection of this kind...
A wonderful and frightening new obstacle in its life.
this started to catch the attention of the un-branched...
it had never experienced an affection of this kind...
a wonderful and frightening new obstacle in its life.
Years went by as it finally found true love...
the love of others...three to be exact.
Letting them into every secret...feeding from every branch...
every part used for their lives...
It noticed its walking seemed more staggered than normal.
The breeze didn’t flow like it used to...
the heart seemed to pound slower and slower...
what caused this?
What caused this?
It soon was noticed that these three had torn every branch, every single stem...
torn to its last life...
How hadn’t it noticed a drastic change in the surroundings...
It didn’t think anything could go this wrong.
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
It thought life was constant.
Happiness, if constant happiness was all that was given out.
It thought life was constant.
Happiness, if constant happiness was all that was given out.
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
“Comfort.”
hints and all, they did as they pleased...
And now it’s starting to wilt away.
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If rap isn't music, then your definition of music is far too small. Beyond this, you should check into your ego and make sure it's not running wild.

You're saying certain times of music (which I think is boring, uninspired garbage, by the way) are more fruitful - which is fine on its face - but then you attempt to align your opinions with the definition of music so you can impose your will on other people and make them admit that the thing they like (Rap in this case) isn't music.

The question is not "is rap music," sir. But "are you Hitler?"
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So part of your main argument let me get this straight you don't believe the beats are music? Before I go on I need to ask why?
The beats are considered music in a sense, but it's not my type of music. The rapping is not. My observation when I was a teenager is that it is just a person yapping nonsense on a mic.

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If rap isn't music, then your definition of music is far too small. Beyond this, you should check into your ego and make sure it's not running wild.

You're saying certain times of music (which I think is boring, uninspired garbage, by the way) are more fruitful - which is fine on its face - but then you attempt to align your opinions with the definition of music so you can impose your will on other people and make them admit that the thing they like (Rap in this case) isn't music.

The question is not "is rap music," sir. But "are you Hitler?"
I'm not trying to eliminate rap. Since most people like rap, it's here to stay. I just want to know the opinions of other people if it's music or not. I personally don't consider rap music and I have a peace of mind listening to my own music and staying away from rap.
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That girl is beautiful! Nahh, I saw more beautiful ones, but yeah she's beautiful!
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How's this? White dude, non-thug, intelligent lyrics, and a solid flow. This is the song my signature quotes. You may not like it as music but you can't deny the intelligence behind the writing.

The song reminds me of....Let it go! LET IT GO! by Frozen

The rapper is trying way too hard to impress me. I am not impressed. If he is singing a melody with the lyrics, I would be easily impressed. The artists I listen to are good and laidback. They sing effortlessly and scream consistently without trying to scream like Meshuggah or something.

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My observation when I was a teenager is that it is just a person yapping nonsense on a mic.
Don't paint with broad brushes. It's a sh*tty way to go through life.

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I have a peace of mind listening to my own music.
Your mind is not at peace if you feel the need to trash other genres you don't care for.

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The rapper is trying way too hard to impress me.
No, he's performing his art.
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