Is rap considered music?

12-12-2014, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Machine

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Ha well alrighty then so first off by saying beats are music you contradicted yourself. Secondly in what world is just mindless yapping, I don't know what rap you have listened to but it's very different than what I do. Many rapper s are very socially conscious and in my opinion the wordplay from people like Aesop Rock and MF DOOM are nearly unbeatable and completely have the right to be called poetry.

The beats (I'm not talking about the rhythmic drum beats) has harmony in it. I am also into Gospel Music and I regularly go to fat chords.com to learn some PHAT chords.

I did not mention hip-hop or R&B if you notice. I am talking about the rapping. I read a lot of write-ups and I have it written down in my Evernote. I don't consider rap to be poetry (even if they talk about politics) and I don't think their lyrics will get published in any form in the future. I read better write-ups than in rap. However, there was one rapper where I was impressed by his rhymes, his name is Akil Dasan. I was just impressed by him because he was playing funk and jazz on his guitar and he was beat boxing and rapping at the same time. He also breakdances. That was the only time I got impressed by hip-hop and then this 50cent and all throngs of rappers showed up. Talking about pimps and money. I got turned off by rap. How can you consider that art?

I think the song by Jimi Hendrix - All Along the Watchtower, I feel that it has some lyrics that talk about the political situation now and it was made many years ago.

Machine · 12-12-2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Blanche_Minim

The beats (I'm not talking about the rhythmic drum beats) has harmony in it. I am also into Gospel Music and I regularly go to fat chords.com to learn some PHAT chords.

I did not mention hip-hop or R&B if you notice. I am talking about the rapping. I read a lot of write-ups and I have it written down in my Evernote. I don't consider rap to be poetry (even if they talk about politics) and I don't think their lyrics will get published in any form in the future. I read better write-ups than in rap. However, there was one rapper where I was impressed by his rhymes, his name is Akil Dasan. I was just impressed by him because he was playing funk and jazz on his guitar and he was beat boxing and rapping at the same time. He also breakdances. That was the only time I got impressed by hip-hop and then this 50cent and all throngs of rappers showed up. Talking about pimps and money. I got turned off by rap. How can you consider that art?

I think the song by Jimi Hendrix - All Along the Watchtower, I feel that it has some lyrics that talk about the political situation now and it was made many years ago.

I'm not talking about 50Cent or any of that ****, not to day what they do isn't art it'd just art I don't find appealing. Well it's obvious you're way to far gone, but to disregard rapping as music is and I know they there is no bad opinion well you broke that rule it seems.

Also I forgot to mention this but how in the hell do you consider nu-metal music that you enjoy that's based around hip-hop and rap mixed with hard rock and metal.

12-12-2014, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Machine

I'm not talking about 50Cent or any of that ****, not to day what they do isn't art it'd just art I don't find appealing. Well it's obvious you're way to far gone, but to disregard rapping as music is and I know they there is no bad opinion well you broke that rule it seems.

Also I forgot to mention this but how in the hell do you consider nu-metal music that you enjoy that's based around hip-hop and rap mixed with hard rock and metal.

When I was younger, I liked Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit. Yes there is rapping, but I liked something else in nu-metal. Those mega-distorted, d-tuned, power chords, I really liked it. Wes Borland was like my favorite guitarist at that time.

Today, I am listening to Evanescence more in Nu-Metal, but right now I recently downloaded an old Carpenters album called Offering/Ticket to Ride. I love the album and that's what I'm into right now. When it goes back to normal, I'll be listening to my rock, death metal, jazz, and film music.

When it comes to Classical Music, I enjoy listening to Debussy and other French Impressionist Composers. I know if you call these individuals Impressionists they'll tell me to "f-*** off", but that's the best way of describing them. I like the sound more than the Russian and German sound. Sorry to offend the Wagner and Beethoven fans. I like them as well, but the French Composers are top on my list.

Chula Vista · 12-12-2014, 01:57 PM

Your ears seem to be pretty wide open. Just appreciate the fact that there's some people who have ears even more wide open that yours.

You don't like rap = COOL

You dismiss rap = NOT COOL

12-12-2014, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Your ears seem to be pretty wide open. Just appreciate the fact that there's some people who have ears even more wide open that yours.

You don't like rap = COOL

You dismiss rap = NOT COOL

I don't mind being called uncool. I had been called 'loser' many times that it has lost meaning and I am immune to it. I am just trying to stay true to myself.

I also listen to Eurobeats, because I watched the anime Initial D. But I don't like anything that has Midi in it.

12-12-2014, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Your ears seem to be pretty wide open. Just appreciate the fact that there's some people who have ears even more wide open that yours.

I have an open mind in music. I am not closed minded, I will even listen to Contemporary Christian Music. Most of the time why I like music is the melody. Dozens of times that happened. Rap has no melody. Those people who are forcing the issue that the rapping has rhythm ex. Twista realize that there is no whole note, half-note, and dynamics in the rapping.

**Janszoon** · 12-12-2014, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Blanche_Minim

I think the song by Jimi Hendrix - All Along the Watchtower, I feel that it has some lyrics that talk about the political situation now and it was made many years ago.

Does the fact that that song was actually written by Bob Dylan mean that Jimi Hendrix's version isn't considered music?

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Your ears seem to be pretty wide open. Just appreciate the fact that there's some people who have ears even more wide open that yours. You don't like rap = COOL You dismiss rap = NOT COOL __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”