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Old 02-27-2015, 09:11 PM   #111 (permalink)
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overrated or not he had a bigger impact on rap than kanye imo

i would add eminem to that list as well

He has not impacted Hip Hop musically.

Furthermore, if Biggie and 2pac were still alive he would be no where as popular or relevant.
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:02 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Why do you think that? Rap is no more immune to sound shifts than any other genre. The 80s turned into 90s gangster rap and all those famous 80s artists were still alive when it happened. All it really takes is one song that sounds different to be a big hit and then everyone follows suit chasing the dollar.
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:05 PM   #113 (permalink)
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He has not impacted Hip Hop musically.

Furthermore, if Biggie and 2pac were still alive he would be no where as popular or relevant
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Trying to base 2 rappers deaths on the Popularity of a rapper is neither here or there but just to say We still have Nas, Jay Z, KRS-One, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Rakim, LL and other legends still alive and look where hip-hop is now. Sound changes throughout the years
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Old 02-28-2015, 01:33 AM   #114 (permalink)
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Kanye is better than Tupac as an artist so I don't understand that one Soul. And he'd be making beat after beat for Biggie. He'd probably be an even bigger influence.
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pretty sure she was talking about jay z

but you're both wrong
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:42 AM   #116 (permalink)
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Why do you think that? Rap is no more immune to sound shifts than any other genre. The 80s turned into 90s gangster rap and all those famous 80s artists were still alive when it happened. All it really takes is one song that sounds different to be a big hit and then everyone follows suit chasing the dollar.

Because he is no where near as talented as them. He also did not make the same impact musically. Because of their deaths, the media needed to replace them with someone else from that era. Jay Z has remained relevant because he follows trends and non related music ventures. He has not musically impacted hip hop as these two have.
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Jay-Z is a legend like Barry Manilow is a legend.
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:47 AM   #118 (permalink)
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Trying to base 2 rappers deaths on the Popularity of a rapper is neither here or there but just to say We still have Nas, Jay Z, KRS-One, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Rakim, LL and other legends still alive and look where hip-hop is now. Sound changes throughout the years
KRS, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Rakim and LL come from a completely different era than Jay Z. They are not the "same" in that regard.

You know they were not going to put Nas on because Nas was a different Nas back then and I think you know why. Jay Z has NEVER been about nothing. He is a lap dog and does what he is told.
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Jay-Z is a legend like Barry Manilow is a legend.


Barry Manilow actually has classics and I don't think he is that bad of an artist as people make it seem. He was a charming performer and he could sing (not the greatest but he could sing nonetheless). Not a big fan of him but just saying. Jay Z is not a good songwriter and his material is very weak. If you look at other rappers from his era it doesn't hold up the same. His appeal is mostly because he is more so a brand not necessarily because he is prolific as an artist.
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Kanye is better than Tupac as an artist so I don't understand that one Soul. And he'd be making beat after beat for Biggie. He'd probably be an even bigger influence.
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