'hip hop is gay right now,' reports legendary/washed up rapper sticky fingaz of onyx
 

Can never watch videos on here on my phone. **** you MB.

Why is Sticky Fingaz washed up? seems like an unnecessary insult lol. Onyx was and still is some of the most hardcore **** you will ever find.

i'll never forgive sticky fingaz for what he did to me in def jam: fight for ny

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gotta love x

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DMX Here I Am - XXL

Huh, I'm guessing that interview was what The Boondocks spoofed in the season 3 premiere.



It starts around the 2:22 mark.

edit: hey the "Dick Riding Obama" song actually fits into the context of this thread, score!

lol & sadly true

the first part with the name mocking was a reference to the dmx interview but the rest of it was prolly aimed at other rappers

at least as far as i know dmx never went back and supported obama. but there were tons of rappers and celebrities on obama's dick

thread related...

Hip hop feels attracted to people of the same gender? Good for hip hop.

The homophobia is my least favourite thing about hip hop.

Even more than the Flo-Rida?

Hip hop has always been about macho posturing so this kinda **** is to be expected tbh

That Whistle song was ****ing horrendous so you might be on to something.
I think it's changing now though. With an effeminate rapper like Drake having so much success. Frank Ocean coming out the closet was also a big step, because his associates all supported him and people like Earl and Vince are gonna be some of the most important people in hip hop over the next few years.

Gaybashing > Flo-Rida

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Bae <3

Whadd'ya mean? Don't you like it when the vocalist sounds as if he's in the middle of castration?

maybe sticky is onto something then

Haha, in a way I think he is right. Though it's treated negatively when I think it should be treated positively.

James reply to PM innit, want to see what you think to those tunes.

i think i actually disagree tbh

to me one of the main appeals of hip hop is that it is unapologetically masculine and rough around the edges

that's part of what makes it entertaining to me. it's like the musical version of gladiators or wwe

that's why i don't really get into soft rappers like drake

that **** is just boring to me

like a castrated version of what i want hip hop to be

this is more up my alley



sticky's delivery >>>

I dunno, I'm not into that posturing bull****. It seems like overcompensating to me.

but that's the whole spirit of hip hop

it is by its very nature a genre built on posturing

Genres evolve. It doesn't have to be like that, and it isn't anymore.

yes but i think the old version was better. you can call it evolution if you like. but its still based on posturing

drake is not shy when it comes to posturing

he just does it in a less masculine way

basically taking the same idea but marketing it more to females

I'd call it bragging more than posturing.

why you wanna start quibbling over semantics like that vwls?

james tell me what you think of that onyx track i posted, i'm curious to hear your thoughts

I would say it's still very much about posturing. I'm having a hard time thinking of any modern hip hop that doesn't include at least a little posturing, even among artists I like.

Because talking about how amazing you are because of your cool rich people toys is not posturing. They make club music about fucking bitches and material objects, there's no posturing. That's not semantics.

Drake interview, "I make music for people to drive to at night".

Drake brags an insane amount, especially on his new release. I'd just rather hear a rapper brag about how successful and talented they are, rather than the fact they are tough and straight.
I like it. Dudes go hard.
It's still everywhere yeah, but not as much. I was kind of speaking specifically about the macho bull****, while modern hip hop is still competitive in nature I think rappers have found other ways in which they are better than everyone else.
It's not like I don't love some of these artists either, I try to keep art and politics seperate, but it's still nice seeing some change.

wait you don't think drake does any posturing, going on about how great he is? you must agree with him then and think he's just being informative. i never pegged you for a drake dickrider, vwls.

why is bragging about being rich less vain/fake than bragging about being tough? what's wrong with asserting masculinity as a virtue these days?

but you say you don't like macho posturing
do you see any macho posturing in this song?
and if so then why do you like it when they go hard?

see, as an approach to life in general i think it is better to rise above the instinctual obsession with trying to be alpha and all that ****. not necessarily squash it entirely cause it still serves a sort of function but don't dwell on it or let it
become some sort of identity issue. but in terms of art, i like to see the gladiators boast and clash. that is the true spirit of hip hop to me. trying to remove it just leaves you with an empty shell of the original idea where gladiators still compete but in imo less interesting ways. like they're playing with toy swords instead or something.

Not really, but I haven't heard much of his stuff outside his radio hits. If you wanna give me some examples of songs.

I think views on gender and sexuality have changed massively over the last few years. It's a lot more progressive now. Bragging about being rich is directly associated with bragging about being successful, which is always going to exist. Selling all those records, making that much of an impact - they're achievements worth bragging about. Being a tough male is not.
Dude, I like hip-hop. I enjoy things for more than just their lyrical content, and if I disregarded everything that featured macho bull**** I'd be disregarding loads of good stuff. You can enjoy something while still identifying it as problematic.
I don't think we'll ever agree on this, if this is really what you think. Music can stray from its original idea. God forbid only listening to rock music that deals with the same subject matter that it did at its conception. I like it when genres evolve and adapt, both musically and socially.
Two of my favourites.

Okay, I can see how you consider that posturing. Those two songs are a lil different from his radio jams. I still think he's awful though.

Thanks James.

One of these days you'll all realise you're wrong about Drake. I live for that day.

I get the appeal, I just like most hiphop with a heavy focus on creative wordplay or social-political lyricism.

I understand that. I enjoy that too. Then I also enjoy the extremely personal and soul searching side of it, which Drake does incredibly well. I just love the production on these records too.