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John Wilkes Booth 03-21-2015 06:02 PM

props
 
i feel like i've been letting too much negativity seep into my posts lately. in the death grips thread it really struck me that i should ignore **** i don't care for and focus more on **** that i do like. i tend to think with music that enjoying it is always a superior pursuit to hating on it. even if it's considered **** by a lot of people like justin beiber or something like that, the people who listen to his music and enjoy it are getting more out of that artists than the haters could ever manage to. so to me they're the smart ones in that scenario even though they're looked down upon by others who consider themselves above that sort of thing.

so in this spirit i decided to make an inverse of the "why your favorite rapper sucks" thread where you post a rapper/hip hop artist(could be a producer even) and i will give them genuine props. the rule of the thread is that any props i give i have to mean. no saying nice **** for the sake of the spirit of the thread. so if you post a rapper that i truly can't come up with a response for then i'll just admit defeat in that one case.

to start off with i'll say that death grips has pretty unique sound and their instrumentals from what i've heard seem interesting

tl;dr post rappers /hip hop artists and i'll give them props

any takers?

Frownland 03-21-2015 06:26 PM

Lil B

John Wilkes Booth 03-21-2015 06:53 PM

lil b - he's one of the most forward thinking rappers you can think of in terms of gender/sexuality and he reps feminism with full force and no shame which takes a lot of balls in the hip hop world. this is also the reason he gets a lot of flack from more old school minded rappers and rap fans. but it's a respectable crusade to take on and i commend him for it. also he makes dope trap music with random celebrity references.

The Batlord 03-21-2015 07:17 PM

Insane Clown Posse

John Wilkes Booth 03-21-2015 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1567932)
Insane Clown Posse

try to stick to actual rappers/hip hop artists. but i'll say this: i've never seen a more dedicated fanbase

The Batlord 03-21-2015 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1567940)
try to stick to actual rappers/hip hop artists. but i'll say this: i've never seen a more dedicated fanbase

Man. You're good. I thought I'd just get a pic of a middle finger or something. And I've learned that only a small amount of their fanbase are really dedicated. Most of them are teenage losers looking for a clique, but who will be on to something else in a few years. The rest are pretty impressive/sad though.

Goofle 03-21-2015 09:12 PM

RiFF RaFF > Nas

DwnWthVwls 03-21-2015 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1567959)
RiFF RaFF > Nas

Sometimes I genuinely hate you.

John Wilkes Booth 03-21-2015 09:32 PM

^^off topic mod posting

Mondo Bungle 03-22-2015 05:06 PM

Lil Dicky

John Wilkes Booth 03-23-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1567968)
^^off topic mod posting

when i posted this i was drugged up and interpreted goofle's post as trolling my thread for no reason. cause you posted 2 rappers and compared them to eachother so i didn't know which one i was supposed to comment on.

now that im sober and reading it i think maybe you wanted me to give riff raff props?

if so then help me out and post some quality material from riff raff cause i am honestly not at all familiar with him

same with lil dicky i've never heard of him either. i'll try to find something but you guys would really help me out if you post some content when you pick rappers that i know nothing about. i'm pretty lazy so it starts to turn into a bit of a chore when i have to go familiarize myself with some obscure rapper just to post about him once.

it looks like this thread has 0 momentum so i'm posting this to try to move it along. but i'll see if i can't find anything to say about those 2 rappers in the meantime

Mondo Bungle 03-28-2015 12:03 PM

this is always a good choice



I'll give him some props, for a generally comedic rapper, he's got a flow I can dig

DwnWthVwls 03-28-2015 01:08 PM

Give props to DZK..

Spoiler for couple vids if you don't know him:

Torcher I


Lucifer's Entertainer


Delta Zeta Kappa


Weed N Speed


grtwhtgrvty 03-28-2015 05:56 PM

Chief keef...

John Wilkes Booth 03-29-2015 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1570572)
this is always a good choice



I'll give him some props, for a generally comedic rapper, he's got a flow I can dig

yea he's definitely a talented and engaging performer. he's also doing something that's really hard to do, which is basically embracing another culture's music without abandoning his own culture. the vast majority of white rappers fail to really pull this off.

John Wilkes Booth 03-29-2015 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1570593)
Give props to DZK..

Spoiler for couple vids if you don't know him:

Torcher I


Lucifer's Entertainer


Delta Zeta Kappa


Weed N Speed


he's basically like eminem but he just happened to arrive a little late and stayed underground so he was not as restricted artistically and could basically say whatever he likes. where as em had a certain line he had to toe with all that limelight which sort of ruined him for me anyway. dzk seems more authentic in his persona and honestly just as talented if not more so lyrically.

DwnWthVwls 03-29-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1571048)
he's basically like eminem but he just happened to arrive a little late and stayed underground so he was not as restricted artistically and could basically say whatever he likes. where as em had a certain line he had to toe with all that limelight which sort of ruined him for me anyway. dzk seems more authentic in his persona and honestly just as talented if not more so lyrically.

+1. I approve of this message.

Ninetales 03-29-2015 07:40 PM

tell me good things about pharoahe monch plz and thx

Surell 03-29-2015 08:53 PM

Young Thug, then Migos

John Wilkes Booth 03-29-2015 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by grtwhtgrvty (Post 1570651)
Chief keef...

he's calling it like it is. the whole music industry is just flaunting money and power in front of the faces of people who have neither. keef's just being over the top with it, making a blunt point. like look i got money bitch. look how little it matters to me. look at how little effort i put in to this music video but it will still get played because i have money.


John Wilkes Booth 03-30-2015 09:52 PM

i'm still stuck on chief keef. i haven't really been paying attention to rap music in the last few years so i have bit of self-educating to do



this is real street rap. and it's damn well made at that. it sounds like a cliche but what the **** do you expect someone from the slums of chicago to produce? humans are animals at the end of the day. so take someone and put them in an environment where this kind of behavior is the way to get paid, and that competitive instinct kicks in. on top of that the music is really brilliantly dark and catchy, very well produced, and perfectly portrays the lifestyle and mentality of a lot of kids coming up in that city



does it glorify it? yep. guess what? that mentality will always have that boastful quality to it. that's just the way it works. but its not the music driving up the murder rates. the music is just a product of it. and it should draw peoples attention, and in a way it does, but too many people attack the symptom out of instinct, when the only way to cure the disease is to uproot the point of infection.

i really don't understand people hating on rappers like chief keef

James 03-31-2015 04:04 AM

Not too big on Keef aside from a few jams, but Lil Herb from the same scene is fantastic.

John Wilkes Booth 03-31-2015 12:36 PM

i was a little surprised to see pharaoh monche's name from ninetales, cause i got the idea you were a younger guy into more modern rap music. so i googled monche to see what he's been up to lately, cause i haven't honestly heard anything from him in quite a while. but he was one of my favorites to do it from the 90's and early 2000's. i see he has a new album so i youtubed it and it's pretty good. glad to see he still has it.

monche's talent really shines through in his delivery more than anything else. he's one of those rappers that can be lyrical in that technical kind of way but doesn't dwell on that to the point of sounding like just another typical "look at my multi's" type mediocre mixtape rapper. instead the focus is on his energetic delivery. he maintains a sort of tension in his flow where he gives you quick bursts of energetic dope rhymes at varying intervals. so it's not predictable or fast for the sake of fast like say tech n9ne or twista or even some busta rhymes flows. it's more like jazz music... always keeping you on your toes. and sometimes his vocals will stray into the realm of borderline singing, but still toned down and rhythmic enough to sound more like really versatile rapping. and all the while when you listen to the actual words he's spitting there's usually a lot of depth and emotion to his lyrical content. so he's one of those rappers that is highly engaging in multiple ways at once, which is why i always liked him so much.

i am curious are you familiar more with his new stuff, his older solo stuff, his even older organized konfusion material, or some combination of the above/all of the above? cause there's a decent amount of quality material from him to explore over the past 2 decades. some examples of my favorites below






John Wilkes Booth 03-31-2015 12:51 PM

btw i'm not ignoring riff raff i just haven't made my mind up about him yet

Ninetales 03-31-2015 03:14 PM

oh ya im more familiar with his 90s stuff for the most part. Internal Affairs is at the very least in my top 5 hip hop albums. Really dig Organized Konfusion as well, I think I dig their debut the most. The only album from Phroahe that ive spent much time with post-00 is Desire which is also amazing imo. i think his new compilation album that came out earlier this year is just a mix of his favorite tracks since Internal Affairs so im pretty stoked to listen to it. he's an artist that can almost do no wrong for me

Surell 03-31-2015 08:48 PM

Gucci Mane

2 Chainz

Three 6 Mafia and then Juicy J

The rap song the Beach Boys put out AKA Brian Wilson

Yo Gotti

Pet_Sounds 03-31-2015 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1571756)
The rap song the Beach Boys put out AKA Brian Wilson

wut

Surell 03-31-2015 09:12 PM


Pet_Sounds 03-31-2015 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1571761)

I'm basically a walking Beach Boys/Brian Wilson encyclopedia, yet that was new to me.

Brian… my man… what were you thinking (or not thinking)?

The Batlord 03-31-2015 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1571764)
I'm basically a walking Beach Boys/Brian Wilson encyclopedia, yet that was new to me.

Brian… my man… what were you thinking (or not thinking)?

*whisper* I don't think Pet_Sounds knows it's a joke! *whisper*

Surell 03-31-2015 09:27 PM

My understanding is that was under the influence of that therapist who played as Brian's ventriloquist.

Frownland 04-01-2015 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1571764)
I'm basically a walking Beach Boys/Brian Wilson encyclopedia, yet that was new to me.

Brian… my man… what were you thinking (or not thinking)?

What Surrel said. Basically, Wilson's therapist thought that a lot of people weren't quite sure of how white Wilson was. Taking this as an ulterior motive, he thought that it might be helpful for Wilson to revisit his old material and construct it in a different way like these crazy kids are doing. He theorized that good rhymes are likely bad for the psyche and instructed Wilson to do what's best for his mental health.

John Wilkes Booth 04-01-2015 02:36 PM

surell is trying to kill me.

i'm at the brink of defeat with young thug

maybe you want to step in and tell me what's good about this guy?

Plainview 04-01-2015 03:08 PM

Some props for my boy Thom's sick flow:

John Wilkes Booth 04-01-2015 03:59 PM

get outta my thread bitch

James 04-01-2015 04:58 PM

Do we have to pick people we like?

John Wilkes Booth 04-01-2015 05:08 PM

no... but i sort of gave up hope on young thug lol

modern rap is so bizarre to me. i think maybe fat joe was right about the gay mafia

Ninetales 04-01-2015 05:15 PM

what did you think of Mick Jenkins?

James 04-01-2015 05:34 PM

Big Sean

Frownland 04-01-2015 05:55 PM

Death Grips


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