is popular rap music today the most ignorant musical genre?
A lot of popular rap music has the same themes, guns, drugs, violence, girls(bitches). Political or conscious rap has never been popular with the masses. Does that make it the most ignorant genre in terms of popularity?
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Judging from the way their fans talk about music in general, I think that rock is the most ignorant genre of music.
Then there's idontwannaknowcore, which is ignorant by nature. |
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Such generalizing sounds shallow.
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Simply put, "conscious" rap is usually boring and people listen to music to be entertained; not to be enlightened.
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Shut the fuck up faggot. |
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Ban every noob in this thread.
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From my experience, such a thought is merely conditioning by exposure to marketing ploys set to attack any successful modern hip-hop artist done so by underground acts attempting to seek further attention - because they're incapable of doing so with the current music they make. The whole underground vs mainstream is a little nonsensical. Yes, some of the music drones on regarding the same topics, some of the artists don't know how to make anything BUT what they've been making for 3 years and can't leave their comfort zone. However, there are modern artists which have a more in-depth, subliminal message to provide. You just need to be willing to listen.
This genre, entirely, has never been, and never will be known as a collective of ignorance. Those who think that hip-hop, in itself, is nothing more than as you said "guns, drugs, and bitches" are uncultured and narrow-minded. You (as an artist) can either feed them ****, or feed them organic, original music. |
Is "popular rap music today" actually a genre?
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I don't really listen to top 40 music anymore, but Kayne West aside, is rap still popular on the charts? |
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Ain't nobody doing the dab to a conscious single. GTFO https://66.media.tumblr.com/960f79f1...pb06o1_500.gif Quote:
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I believe he was referring to the "mainstream" Commercial Hip-hop; which really hasn't changed through out the years aside of the predominance of the bass line.
Currently in the Billboard Top 40: #14: Broccoli - D.R.A.M. Ft. Lil Yatchy #21: Sucker For Pain - Lil Wayne, Wiz Khalifa & Imagine Dragons With Logic & Ty Dolla $ign Feat. X Ambassadors #24: Panda - Desiigner #34: Timmy Turner Desiigner If you include Drake in rap, then he is holding #11 'One Dance', #17 'Too Good', #23 'For Free', #27 'Controlla', #38 'Work' |
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Oh well blame human nature I guess. Sex and violence sells, if political consciousness sold I'm pretty sure Drake would be busting rhymes to Greenpeace.
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wow, what a great discussion. thanks guys.
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Also, a lot of rappers and people who enjoy hip hop come from environments where guns, sex and drugs are prevalent and in some case coveted. Rap has always been very much about just talking about what you see, hear and feel. Everyone's human experience is different, and rap began and has always focused on life in the inner city, the poor inner city specifically. Look at the common themes in country music. Love, 4x4 trucks, whiskey and hunting or fishing. It's roots and the majorty of it's fanbase is typically from the rural south. The music mirrors the audience in most cases. There are, however, many exceptions to the rule. Hip Hop delves into many more topics than you seem to be giving it credit for. And even when it doesn't there are a lot of artists who have very deep and unique perspectives on sex, drugs, guns, gangs, poverty, and all the emotions that go along with experiencing those things. |
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Country talks about tractors and country life. Rock talks about girls, sex, and love (at least that's what use to be mainstream) And so on. The genres are designed, written, and formed as to what the people in those areas reflect upon lifestyle wise. |
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Most popular rock songs touch on the similar themes that are repeated over and over again that's what makes them popular. |
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* Choosing to focus on particular subject matter doesn't imply that one isn't familiar with other subject matter. * No matter what or how many other things you write lyrics about, there's more to life than that. So that criticism goes for everything. * You're apparently operating with a supposition that lyrics are supposed to capture some particular cross-section of life experiences. What's the support for the idea that that's what lyrics are supposed to be doing? I'm also guessing that maybe you're some sort of value objectivist. Value objectivism is factually errant. |
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i dont really know what a Value objectivist is. Can you elaborate? sounds interesting. I think you make some good points. They dont really apply to me but that are good valid points. I was just pointing out that the most "popular" type of rap tends to has the same themes. This is just a fact. "I'm in love with the Coco", "Flick of the wrist" to name a couple of big hits of the last few years. Pretty much all of rick ross music is about when he apparently used to sell drugs. Wiz Khalifa is a bit more diverse but talks a lot about Marujana(sorry my spelling is bad). The list is endless really. Maybe, ignorant is the wrong term. Maybe Popular rap is the most Shallow genre of music which reflects mainstream society, which is pretty shallow in itself. great points though my friend, even if they went over my head slightly. I dnt know some of the terms you are using so maybe you can explain them to me? Cheers |
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