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Janszoon 06-16-2017 09:51 PM
Sound like normal-ish pop rap. What am I missing?

The Batlord 06-16-2017 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1847004)
Sound like normal-ish pop rap. What am I missing?
It's like some dude who'd never rapped in his life took a mouthful of assorted pills and is just having the time of his life and recorded himself drowning in a Phil Spector-ish wall of sound if it fell off a truck and got sold on a New York street corner.

Janszoon 06-16-2017 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1847015)
It's like some dude who'd never rapped in his life took a mouthful of assorted pills and is just having the time of his life and recorded himself drowning in a Phil Spector-ish wall of sound if it fell off a truck and got sold on a New York street corner.
Like I said.

OccultHawk 06-17-2017 12:24 AM
21 Savage
Kodak Black
a boogie wit da hoodie
bryson tiller
NBA Youngboy

They're all off shoots of what Future invented

Mumble Rap is like I said earlier just a derogatory way to describe Trap

They usually don't bother much with complex rhymes because it's more about not upsetting the hypnotic flow

It's for the most part a southern thing

Very early 2 Live Crew was mostly chanting behind ridiculous bass

It's also a descendent of DJ Screw - as in meant to be listened to high as **** on purple drank and purple weed -everything is purple-

Lucem Ferre 06-17-2017 12:45 AM
Lil Yachty and Lil B could go in there. I don't listen to the genre much.

And no it's not a derogatory way to describe trap. I'd consider it a product of trap, a subgenre, but not trap it's self. Like A$AP Ferg is undeniably trap music but he's not mumble rap. It's the only thing I know to call it.

It's like the influence of 36Mafia crashed and ran into the the influence of 80s & Heartbreak and created a baby. Starting probably with Future with many more to follow.

Edit: But not all "mumble rappers" would fit in with Yachty. Because Travi$ Scott can rap his ass off. He doesn't just put out ridiculous lyrics like Yachty and Lil B. Yeah, he has basic club lyrics but doesn't say **** like she blow me like a cello.

OccultHawk 06-17-2017 12:56 AM
Peek A Boo is a good jam and the flippancy of using the word cello to get the rhyme where obviously he meant flute is hilarious and clever. It's like whatever the **** old white people listen to.

grindy 06-17-2017 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1847003)
This is really lame.

OccultHawk 06-17-2017 01:07 AM
I don't think it's as good but the texture reminds me of Purity Ring

bulbasaur 06-17-2017 03:09 AM
i'm not really a fan of yachty, but he did own up to the whole cello/flute mistake. i mean if krs-one can rap about the wrong beastie boy being dead, then yachty should at least be given some leniency.

i think mumble rap is kind of loose as a descriptor. if it's only attributed to rappers with incoherent lyrics (because they're "mumbling")--and that's the only requisite i've known the genre to have, so correct me if i'm misguided about this--then it's confusing on how that incoherence is gauged. i'd guess young thug, lil uzi vert, lil yachty, and famous dex are shoe-ins, but i never really thought of the likes of denzel curry, travis scott, and kodak black incomprehensible enough to be frequent additions to mumble rap playlists as much as they are. are a chunk of drill rappers lumped into the genre by extension?

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1847061)
21 Savage
Kodak Black
a boogie wit da hoodie
bryson tiller
NBA Youngboy
tiller seems like a weird inclusion in that list, unless i'm missing something in his discography

Lucem Ferre 06-17-2017 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1847071)
I don't think it's as good but the texture reminds me of Purity Ring
A lot of modern trap artists like to use those really airy witch house beats.

Lucem Ferre 06-17-2017 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1847080)
i'm not really a fan of yachty, but he did own up to the whole cello/flute mistake. i mean if krs-one can rap about the wrong beastie boy being dead, then yachty should at least be given some leniency.

i think mumble rap is kind of loose as a descriptor. if it's only attributed to rappers with incoherent lyrics (because they're "mumbling")--and that's the only requisite i've known the genre to have, so correct me if i'm misguided about this--then it's confusing on how that incoherence is gauged. i'd guess young thug, lil uzi vert, lil yachty, and famous dex are shoe-ins, but i never really thought of the likes of denzel curry, travis scott, and kodak black incomprehensible enough to be frequent additions to mumble rap playlists as much as they are. are a chunk of drill rappers lumped into the genre by extension?


tiller seems like a weird inclusion in that list, unless i'm missing something in his discography
It's that autotune sing song style of trap. Why I include Travi$ Scott even though he doesn't really mumble. People will lump him in anyways. Also forgetting Desiigner. He's like the most mumbly.

bulbasaur 06-17-2017 03:40 AM
it was definitely just a short list, but desiigner's panda doesn't use autotune, does it (i can't attest for the rest of his output)? i don't know if i'd consider autotune a necessity. i get that it's recurrent though (soda boi, uzi vert, yachty, etc)

OccultHawk 06-17-2017 12:30 PM
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tiller seems like a weird inclusion in that list, unless i'm missing something in his discography
Trap Soul hangs its hat on the same hook, imo.

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A lot of modern trap artists like to use those really airy witch house beats.
You nailed it. Thanks.

The Batlord 07-03-2017 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by norm macdonald (Post 1852603)
It's an interesting comparison. I like future, migos, young thug, etc. They're not bad rappers at all they are just taking an innovative approach. The subject matter is admittedly lacking. But really it's more about the style and sound for those artists than for trying to be deep or provoke deep thinking. It's basically party music. I don't really like punk rock though.
I mean I dig the idea of inclusion of ideas different from repackaged backpacker **** influencing the evolution of hip hop.

bulbasaur 07-08-2017 05:41 PM
is snow considered a mumble rap pioneer

Mindy 07-08-2017 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1853888)
is snow considered a mumble rap pioneer
https://boxden.com/smilies/pueWZzc.png

Janszoon 07-08-2017 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1853888)
is snow considered a mumble rap pioneer
A licky boom boom down.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 07-09-2017 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1847080)
i'm not really a fan of yachty, but he did own up to the whole cello/flute mistake. i mean if krs-one can rap about the wrong beastie boy being dead, then yachty should at least be given some leniency.

i think mumble rap is kind of loose as a descriptor. if it's only attributed to rappers with incoherent lyrics (because they're "mumbling")--and that's the only requisite i've known the genre to have, so correct me if i'm misguided about this--then it's confusing on how that incoherence is gauged. i'd guess young thug, lil uzi vert, lil yachty, and famous dex are shoe-ins, but i never really thought of the likes of denzel curry, travis scott, and kodak black incomprehensible enough to be frequent additions to mumble rap playlists as much as they are. are a chunk of drill rappers lumped into the genre by extension?



tiller seems like a weird inclusion in that list, unless i'm missing something in his discography
every time you make a post that isn't in meme format im shocked into the realization that you're a real person and not just my sock puppet account

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 10:52 AM
i always regret it

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 07-09-2017 10:53 AM
if i was a mod i would edit every single serious post you make and replace it with an amv

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1854102)
if i was a mod i would edit every single serious post you make and replace it with an amv
@frownland

Frownland 07-09-2017 10:57 AM
Like I don't already do that.

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 10:58 AM
frownland gets me

Frownland 07-09-2017 10:59 AM
That's what your will says, at least.

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 11:08 AM
i put qwertyy in my mb will, so he can inherit all of my posts when i get banned

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 07-09-2017 11:10 AM
then i will finally claim my rightful place as funniest member

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 11:10 AM
bulbasaur's overrated

Lucem Ferre 07-09-2017 11:19 AM
Shy One the original mumble rapper.

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 11:22 AM
who's going to be the first mb member to release a mumble rap album

OccultHawk 07-09-2017 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1854128)
who's going to be the first mb member to release a mumble rap album
Kiii

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 11:25 AM
high hopes for the ki mumble rap venture

Lucem Ferre 07-09-2017 11:28 AM
My project has mumble rap on it.

Edit: And it's done all I need is an album cover.

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 11:33 AM
how could you dash ki's dreams like that

Lucem Ferre 07-09-2017 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1854136)
how could you dash ki's dreams like that
Ki dashes his own dreams like that. Bitch, I just do me.

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 12:03 PM
fingers crossed for a surprise ki release while lucem scrambles to put together an album cover

Lucem Ferre 07-09-2017 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1854142)
fingers crossed for a surprise ki release while lucem scrambles to put together an album cover
Ahh man and his album cover game is on fleek second only Frownland and Mondo Bungle.

Tristan_Geoff 07-09-2017 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1854128)
who's going to be the first mb member to release a mumble rap album
Bitch

https://nocurfewkids.bandcamp.com/al...ric-train-wrec

Lucem Ferre 07-09-2017 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrs. Tristan Rosenstock (Post 1854155)
I get the mumble part but don't understand why you call it 'rap' or an 'album'.

Tristan_Geoff 07-09-2017 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1854158)
I get the mumble part but don't understand why you call it 'rap' or an 'album'.
It's really neither, it transcends music itself

bulbasaur 07-09-2017 06:16 PM
can't believe two people called me bitch in this thread


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