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Old 01-13-2011, 08:13 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I like the little toy keyboard sound in that song but that's about it. Everything else, from the autotune to the beat, is pretty sad behind the curve trend-hopping. I really don't get the use of autotune my Snoop of all people. His voice is his greatest asset. It's what makes him who he is. With autotune he just winds up sounding like a million other people.
I think he still sounds like himself with autotune, it just adds a different sound.

Okay, here's my shpeal about auto-tune:
I agree that it is overused and annoying in a lot of pop today. Most noticeably with unmentionables such as **$**. For example, one album that I think had a lot of potential and could have been a very enjoyable album, except for the fact that it was ruined by autotune used distastefully is Katy Perry's new album, Teenage Dream. one of the few tracks on that album that I really enjoy is Firefly, because it is one of the few tracks that has almost no traces of autotune. That said, I did enjoy the use of autotune in California Girls, but most of the album was almost unbearable

But if you look at the origins on autotune, in electronic music, it was a very enjoyable effect to many songs. For example, I think it is part of what gave Daft Punk their sound.
And I still believe that autotune can, and is being used in creative, enjoyable ways. One of the best tracks I've ever heard use autotune was off of Kanye's new album, the track 'Lost In The World' the beginning is like an a capella autotuned choir that just sounds beautiful.

And finally; as for this song, I disagree completely that Snoop doesn't sound like himself. He has all of his vocal traits and still sounds like himself, and the autotune is also used very creatively, for example in the chorus and some verses in electronic sounding ways that I think sound very cool and enjoyable.
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Old 01-13-2011, 09:11 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Daft Punk use a vocoder dude, not the same thing as auto-tune.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:20 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Daft Punk use a vocoder dude, not the same thing as auto-tune.
in a sense it is.

If you want to be picky about it; snoop dogg isn't using auto-tune at all in this song, it's a vocoder, and he uses pitch bending to make cool electronic sounding stuff.

Snoop obviously doesn't need to be auto-tuned in the sense that he needs his pitch corrected.

Above, I was referring to the seemingly common use of the term auto-tune as, essentially, using a vocoder.

I guess I can clarify a bit, in Katy Perry's album automated pitch correction has been applied carelessly in many songs, so it is evident that either Katy doesn't actually have any talent (which wouldn't really surprise me) or that she doesn't bother trying hard in the studio because they can automatically correct the pitch. I like the use of a vocoder in California Girls. And in Firefly, she either tried harder, or they were more meticulous about the production.

Basically what I'm saying is auto-tune is a use of a vocoder and it has become common use to refer to vocoding as auto-tune.

In terms of the strict definition of correcting people's singing who can't stay on pitch, I think it is a truly evil practice.
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Old 01-17-2011, 05:46 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Just curiously, why are you bothering with Katy Perry anyway?
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:57 AM   #45 (permalink)
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as an example

because for me she is an artist who might be decent if it weren't for the current corporate structure of popular music
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:00 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Goodbye Snoop Dogg.

Snoop Lion explains name change, new focus – The Marquee Blog - CNN.com Blogs
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:12 PM   #47 (permalink)
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err...

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Old 07-31-2012, 07:35 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Snoop Lion? WTFFFFFFF........... That's an absolutely ridiculous name change. And people are still going to call him Snoop Dogg. lol
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:07 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Maybe he should change his name to Garfield Bear instead.
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