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Rockafella Skank 02-23-2004 02:07 PM

What do you think of 50 Cent?
 
There's been a lot of 50 Cent bashing going on lately (I've been part of it), so I wanted to set the record straight and see who likes him and who doesn't (and, of course, why or why not?). So, you know I don't like him, because I think he can't write, he can't rhyme, and he exploits his circumstance. What do you think?

Eltiraaz 02-23-2004 02:25 PM

Pretty much same reasons you just mentioned. I cant see why anyone would like him. Hes got such a slur in his voice you cant even tell what hes saying. He most definatley milks the fact that hes been shot nine times, but truth be told, that doesnt make you a better rapper! I've stated before that I think gangster hip-hop is the biggest load of crap out there. They are re-doing what TuPac, NWA and all the artists of the eighties and early nineties have already done.

Recipie for a G-Unit video:

-lots of "bling"
-expensive as hell cars
-'hoes'
-lots of walking around in a circle with their pants falling off their *ss
-random muttering about how "hot they be", "how tuff they be", etc and so forth
-a mansion or estate in the backdrop

I mean if your not going to do something original spare my braincells and just DONT DO ANYTHING!

Rockafella Skank 02-23-2004 02:27 PM

I agree with you that Gangster rap is really bad nowadays. I think it's "played" and over with. It was cool with NWA came on the scene and did their thing, but it's no longer cool and new. It's just repetitive and boring. It's time that rappers realized that they have to do something new to get respect by anyone who really cares about the hip-hop genre. People like 50 Cent will never get respect from real "hip-hop heads".

Lopezand 02-23-2004 03:44 PM

50 Cent.

I don't mind 50 Cent in the context of once in a while. He has some lines and songs that I can listen to. But overall as an an artist, he's no better than a Nelly, Master P, or anyone else that just doesnt have anything to rap about, either because they can't write or because they have nothing to write about. Calling 50 Cent a "Gangster" rapper is also kind of ridiculous. Just because he sold crack in Queens doesnt mean he is a "gangster rapper." Just because he got shot up for being connected to some stuff doesnt mean he is a "gangster rapper." If selling drugs at one point in your life and being shot at is the criteria for being a "gangster rapper" then we might as well toss Biggie in that category. I'm personally not gonna call Biggie a "gangster rapper" because hip-hop has adopted that term for primarily West Coast Rappers who were still rapping about doing that kind of stuff.

People are also acting like 50 Cent is this new deal, when the fact is, he has been around in this rap game for a while now and was recognized. In response to his "How to Rob," which first came out on one of DJ Clue's mixtapes in the summer of '98 or '99 (not positive) Jay-Z came back with:
"I'm about the dollar, what the **** is 50 Cent?" Possibly early on in the game he was being creative with his lyrics:

"Run up on Missy and Timbaland with the pound, like "You, give me the cash! You put the hot dog down."

"Caught Juvenile for his Cash-Money peeps. Told him I wanted it all, he said 'Even my gold teeth?'"

Although these lines are funny and creative, it's basically the extent of 50 Cent. He lacks the ability to come with true hard hitting lines like a true MC. There's no doubt in my mind that I could find 5 true MCs (easily alive, much more easily dead) that could take 50 Cent in a battle. 50 Cent currently represents what white-teenage-MTV-watching Americans are willing to accept as "Gangster Rap" because sure he used to get shot at and now he wears a bullet-proof vest, but he really cant be that bad if he is gonna show up to the MTV VMA's with Vivica A. Fox, a nice black actress. And oh yeah... he roles with Eminem and Dr. Dre so he's got to be cool....

The bottom line: 50 Cent shouldnt be considered a true MC, good rapper, or anything else flattering until he realizes what this game is really about and starts to rap about something besides "Groupie Luv."

Rockafella Skank 02-23-2004 04:03 PM

I have to agree with most of what you're saying, but I disagree slightly. I think it's fair to say 50 Cent is a "Wannabe Gangster Rapper". He definitely has that sort of image. However, with that said, I think he sort of plays it up more than he really is. Anyway, I agree with most of what you say. :thumb:

JackJeckel 02-23-2004 08:35 PM

because I think he can't write, he can't rhyme, and he exploits his circumstance

50 Bars of pleasure 50 bars of pain
When I'm dead and gone niggaz gonna remember my name 50

Yo Black is flashy like Alpo gun happy like Pappy
Sneaky mutha****a remind me of nigga that clap me
He aint the type you shoot dice with and win dog
Unless you want to get your ass layed out in gilmore
Yes we soldiers, remind me of Troy and E-Bags
When they came through they hollored like 'What up comrade?'
Grimey niggaz they loved to get gully
Summertime still had on black gloves and skullys
The Lex 450 pulled up that's Cornbread
Them niggaz from Philly would of called him an old head
But he an OG remind me of Chaz and Bump real low key
Sounded like he don't know nothing about drama
For this money send many men through trauma
Switchy walked in son, this bitch had the baddest ass
The bulletproof glass was rolled down on his S-Class
Heard in DC he kept mad blocks in order
Picture this a young nigga gettin it like Rich Porter
Sonny came in for half a pit
He got knocked, he on lock still controllin' his block from constop
Pop pulled up in the CL5 surprised he came,
Heard his man just ****in got murked by Salene
Heard he got it in the range nigga came popped one in his brain
Over some-thing took his watch and his chain
Country boys off the hook down there in Richmond mayne
In the black 740 I sat, hat turned back
Bow down baby nelly singing my wrist blinging what
I'm waiting on this nigga Wise we lost for two pies
Son he smokin that **** I can see it in his eyes
Coming up wise emotions closed
Most buying round looking for wisemen toast
Benny hopped out the Escalade with a few thorough men from B-More
They sellin heroin in Maryland his first batch diesel
Killed like 4 fiends his popularity grew that only meant more cream
First it was him and his brother now he got a team
Went from 5 and a half grams to living the dream
City pulled up Goddamn you know his format
Bentley is all marble in the door mink floormate
Got the gats out the stash box popped 2 glocks
Peace "All Eyez on Me" 2Pac
Everybody know he a boss he still gotta floss
He on the same bull**** that sent Gotti up north
That's Dime in the blue ts stunting like he Nicky Barnes
He broke but he talk like he a Don
Homes hoppin out the Jag that's Max haitian cat
Kill a nigga quick remind me of Haitian Jack
I peep his style son I know his stelo, He on the d-low
He smile at niggaz mumbling **** you in Creole
Heard war stories bout how he maneuver with the Ruger
Hold the iron horizontally and send shots through ya
Few niggaz tried to murk him, most them got found
Some turnt away try to run they in wheelchairs now
Banks hopped out bulletproof this, bulletproof that
Bulletproof snorkel, bulletproof hat
Got out a Black hummer he blew 90 on that
Poppin mad **** like he gonna bulletproof that lets go

50 Bars


Your entire argument was just shot to pieces. Although I agree he does exploit the being shot 9 times bit, but god damn, that song alone just proved you wrong.

exasko 02-23-2004 11:05 PM

First...

You have to have songs that are about cars and ****, because that is what they play in the clubs.. you think they play Dear Momma out in the clubs.. no because you can't dance to it.. Also.. Many Men is a true song about him self and his life.. just like Pac, but like he has stated, he will start to write more about him as the records come because right now people don't care who 50cent is, they want to party... so once people start caring who he is, the deeper his songs can be...

hell.. even Pac had songs where he talked about cars, and ****.. hell that is what Rap is about.. claiming you are the biggest and baddest.. that's rap.. if you don't like it.. you don't like rap.. you may like a few rap songs but you dont like rap in general.. i like a few country songs, does that mean i love country.. no just a few songs...

Rockafella Skank 02-23-2004 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exasko
hell.. even Pac had songs where he talked about cars, and ****.. hell that is what Rap is about.. claiming you are the biggest and baddest.. that's rap.. if you don't like it.. you don't like rap.. you may like a few rap songs but you dont like rap in general.. i like a few country songs, does that mean i love country.. no just a few songs...

See... that's where the difference comes into play between rap and hip-hop. By that definition I don't like rap. What I like is hip-hop, but too many times people try and mix the two. Hip-hop is different than rap. Anyway, 50 Cent does rap, not hip-hop and people who do rap nowadays will never be anything great, because all they do has been done before.

exasko 02-23-2004 11:57 PM

If you said that in 1996.. you wouldn't think EMINEM would be consider the best rapper alive.. he is a RAPPER, not hip hop.. never say never,,,

Lopezand 02-24-2004 07:54 AM

Maybe I am missing the point, but I dont think Eminem is the best rapper alive right now.

Rockafella Skank 02-24-2004 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exasko
If you said that in 1996.. you wouldn't think EMINEM would be consider the best rapper alive.. he is a RAPPER, not hip hop.. never say never,,,

Uhh... I don't think Eminem is even close to one of the best MCs alive today. He is good, but he's not one of the best in my opinion.

Eltiraaz 02-24-2004 01:58 PM

maybe your right, if thats what rap is, then HELL i do not like rap.

But I'm of the belief that its not, or shouldnt be anyway.

and about TuPac, thats exactly my point. Hes re-doing whats already been done 1000 times over by everyother bigname rapper out there. If thats the road that rap is going down.. its going down.

exasko 02-25-2004 09:38 AM

he has been declared wanna the best rapper alive on MTV and VH1..

Eminem has broken records in selling so many in the first week.. weather you like him or not.. he is the only rapper who isn't rapping about cars, and bitches, unless his songs talking about killing his bitch.. lol.. his lyrics are so unqie, the flow he has.. he is the wanna the best, he has come to the rap table and laid down something new...

Rockafella Skank 02-25-2004 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exasko
he has been declared wanna the best rapper alive on MTV and VH1..

MTV and VH1 doesn't mean anything to me. They both just pick what's popular.


Quote:

Eminem has broken records in selling so many in the first week.. weather you like him or not.. he is the only rapper who isn't rapping about cars, and bitches, unless his songs talking about killing his bitch.. lol.. his lyrics are so unqie, the flow he has.. he is the wanna the best, he has come to the rap table and laid down something new...
I'm not trying to hate on Em and say that he hasn't achieved a lot as a rapper -- he clearly has. However, just because he is successful and popular does not mean he is the best. There are many better MCs that are just not as popular.

Lopezand 02-25-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exasko
he has been declared wanna the best rapper alive on MTV and VH1..

Eminem has broken records in selling so many in the first week.. weather you like him or not.. he is the only rapper who isn't rapping about cars, and bitches, unless his songs talking about killing his bitch..

1) I'm sorry but I just watched the 22 Greatest MC's on MTV2 today, and they had Nelly at 13 and DMX at 12, in front of KRS-ONE and Run-DMC. Now if you are telling me that MTV and VH1 are the authority on Rappers and MCs then fine, I'll just disregard all of your other statements.

2) Eminem is not the only rapper not rapping about "Cars and Bitches." Why dont you go cop that Masta Ace "Disposable Arts" (2001)? Why dont you go grab yourself a bootleg of Nas "God's Son" (2003)? Just because Eminem is the only one not rapping about cars and bitches on TRL doesnt mean he is the only one not rapping about those things. Open your mind, get some Mos Def, get some Talib Kweli, and answer back when you have educated yourself.

Ante_Up 02-26-2004 02:14 PM

hahahaha ^^^^^"answer back when you have educated yourself." hahaha. exasko just got owned. hahaha

Beor Uaine 03-14-2004 01:39 AM

I don't like him, period. He does nothing for me.

sheek 11-07-2004 11:42 AM

iight, as far as gangsta talk goes, 50 got it locked ..... i aint sayin he all gangsta n $ht, like al capone n dem, but he no bout violence ....... aside from dat , LYRICALLI? 50 dont gotta shot ....... i mean, wit fabolous, out now, 50 cant even write poery like fabolous rhyme ... 50 is a bum, he uses da same words ova n ova again ....... not onli dat he jus suck at rappin ... o yea n while we at it ........ i aint tryna take up 4 jayz or nuttin, but how mani of ya'll heard dat freestyle 50 spit against jayz? dat wuz retarted ..... i mean 50CENT VS JAYZ? come on ya'll ..... jayz aint even 1 of my 5 favorite artists, but i no facts, n jayz is actualli iight 2 me ..... he put out sum nice trackz, n 4 50 2 try n freestyle against him, 50 didnt no wtf he wuz doin ..... he lucki jay aint come back at him ........

sheek 11-07-2004 11:58 AM

iight dat wuz stupid ....... eminem didnt open nething new, stupid fu## ..... all he do is try 2 b funni, n if he aint doin dat, he talkin bout suttin dats makin him go suicidal ........ nw he made bout 5 tracks dat i like, but daz it ...... mtv n vh1? ... u cant use them to justify da fact dat eminem is 1 of da greatest rappaz alive .... da onli reason ppl like him, is b/c, his lyrics is funni, he diss michael jackson alot, n he da most successful white rappa eva, ill give him dat ...... if eminem realli wanna get da vote of a tru hip hop fan, dis wut he gotta do ..... he gotta quit wit da comedian $h!t ..... dats it as far as im cuncerned ...... cuz when he spittin suttin worth listenin 2, he mad nice ......... tru wut u said, he gotta nice flo ....... he aint lay down nuttin new, cuz altho he mad gd at xpressin hisself, nas alreadi took dat title .... listen 2 nas's album it wuz written, n listen close 2 wut u think he talkin bout ...... it aint hard 2 tell ...... wut else u think he brought 2 da rap game? think bout it n i guarantee ull find anotha artist dat alreadi did it ... xcept 4 bein funni, cuz he da funniest rappa eva ........ but da rap game dont need no comedian, we alreadi got missi elliot, n ludakris

IamAlejo 02-22-2005 12:38 PM

New 50 Cent?
 
Who else has their hands on it already? I do, it's alright, I don't like rap but I like getting albums early, so I got it. I'll try to upload a song or two to give you guys a heads up if you want.

Soundgardener 02-22-2005 03:31 PM

I'd buy it just so I could take a sludge hammer and smash it in front of some preppy posers at school......:)

hookers with machineguns 02-22-2005 04:28 PM

I was so excited whenever the hype was around GeT Rich or Die Trying, then bought the album, and realized how crappy it was, with the exception of many men and patiently waiting. But yeah, let me know what the good songs are, cause I definitely wouldnt waste more money on his albums.

Ante_Up 02-22-2005 05:48 PM

i just wanna hear the Piggybank song where he disses nas and fat joe...post that if you can

Soundgardener 02-22-2005 05:50 PM

some other uses of the album are wiping your ass with it, using it as a frisbee... my ideas are endless


:tramp:

hookers with machineguns 02-22-2005 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ante_Up
i just wanna hear the Piggybank song where he disses nas and fat joe...post that if you can

what's 50's problem with Nas?

So did 50 ever respond to Shyne's diss?

millybig 02-23-2005 04:40 AM

'fiddy's new album is a pile of cack, especially candy shop, this song makes him look like the type of person your'e parents tell you to avoid.
the songs with eminem are probably ok, but only because of eminem.

millybig 02-23-2005 05:55 AM

Eminem is good, but he ain't as good as biggie or pac

millybig 02-23-2005 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockafella Skank
There's been a lot of 50 Cent bashing going on lately (I've been part of it), so I wanted to set the record straight and see who likes him and who doesn't (and, of course, why or why not?). So, you know I don't like him, because I think he can't write, he can't rhyme, and he exploits his circumstance. What do you think?

I think 50 cent is a little boy, trying to be a big man!!!

IamAlejo 02-24-2005 07:02 PM

He doesn't really bash them too much on "Piggy Bank"...but it is one of my favorite songs on the album. Posting it in a second. You have to copy and paste them onto your address, otherwise it messes up. Here's two songs that I think are pretty good.

Piggy Bank
http://www.dazzled.com/iamalejo/05-50_cent-piggy_bank_(produced_by_needlz).mp3

My Toy Soldier
http://www.dazzled.com/iamalejo/16-50_cent-my_toy_soldier_(feat_tony_yayo)_(produced_by_emine m).mp3

Tell me if those work, it should.

sikoholickkouboi 02-25-2005 07:08 AM

Re
 
http://jeaun.com/archives/jeaun/archives/000536.html

Just thought I'd give this link. Even if I were totally straight, I'd be against 50 Cent for **** like this. He just comes across as being a peabrained posing neanderthal ape-n*gger. btw, when I say the n word, I mean black trash, not all black people. Like I've said before, I judge people on an individual basis. Not that homophobia is the only issue many of those like him are "ignant" on, though. I agree there's a difference between hip-hop and rap. "Rap" sucks. So does all other popular sterile commercial crap tool music. btw, if I'm politically incorrect, I give a d**n.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-25-2005 11:14 AM

I`d say he should be shot

But someone obviously had that idea before me

hookers with machineguns 02-25-2005 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by millybig
'fiddy's new album is a pile of cack, especially candy shop, this song makes him look like the type of person your'e parents tell you to avoid.
the songs with eminem are probably ok, but only because of eminem.

yeah fiddy's new single sounds like Magic Stik, IMO. annoying as phuk.
Honestly, I think fiddy woulda been better off w/o Em; pop beats dont compliment his subpar rhymes.

dirt mcgirt 02-26-2005 09:38 AM

yo, i herd 50 cent gets paid in bananas, naamean? sh*tz fo real son.

Soundgardener 02-26-2005 10:05 AM

I always thought he was paid in groupies...

Sneer 02-26-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundgardener
some other uses of the album are wiping your ass with it, using it as a frisbee... my ideas are endless


:tramp:

wipe your arse with a plastic, 3D square is just..odd.

Raine 02-26-2005 11:20 AM

Ahh. I've missed you guys so much. Threads like this are the reason i keep coming back.

I'm not totally sure who's talking about what and who's been dissing who but . .

Yeah well 50 cent is not the best rapper out there. I don't even consider him a rapper.
I also hate to keep saying this because yous are probably getting tired of hearing me say about as much as I'm tired of having to say it.
But 50 cent is a not a rapper. He isn't a gangster. he is a freaking menace to the rap community.

No self respecting person, rappper, skateboarder, or any human who has any dignity whatsoever should be proud to say that they were shot nine times.
If they were shot on nine different occassions by nine different people it just shows that I'm not the only person out there who hates him. If he was shot ine times by the same person and he's still rapping that just means he was shot by a girl or by a guy who has bad aim. Assuming he was shot bine times (I don't know the whole story) by the same person bullet after bullet, then the dude should have his right to a gun revoked because there's no way in heck that if I hate smoebody so mcuh to shoot them and I shoot them nine times that I'm not gonna kill the mofo. it just ain't happening.

I also cannot and will not accept the fact that there are girls out there who like this dude for his lyrics because I've asked a good deal of girls out there if they think 50 is attractive and they all said hell no. Which means that not every chic is as shallow as most guys think.

Now this thread is not about his looks I know but I just felt as though I had to say that.

Getting back to some point or at least on topic, I am veyr crazy.

I was talking to my friend a couple of days ago about the Pope and told her about one of my many theories of the world. Now all of yous are gonna think I'm super crazy when I say this and that's ok because I already know I'm crazy.
but I think that the Pope hangs out with 50 cent. And that 50 cent is catholic. cause I mean there are black jews so why can't their be black Catholics? My point exactly. Now yous are all probably wondering how I came to the conclusion that 50 cent hangs out with the Pope. And there's a very logical explanation. "Ice" Have you ever seen picture sof the pope? In every picture he's wearing all of these huge gold chains and diamonds and whatever. And my problem with that is that if you're a man of god and you live off of church donations then you're either stealing from your congregations and getting more money than you deserve or your followers just love you that much. And I highly doubt it's the love. But to get back to the point I think The pope hangs out with 50 cent so he can know where to buy the most 'ice' and the biggest chains and whatever.
Does any of this make sense so far?
And to all of yous who are Catholic, I mean you no disrespect. I just have a rather active imagination.

Oh and stop listening to 50 cent. Listen to Dead Prez or something.

Peace out.

Raine 02-26-2005 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by millybig
'fiddy's new album is a pile of cack, especially candy shop, this song makes him look like the type of person your'e parents tell you to avoid.
the songs with eminem are probably ok, but only because of eminem.

So i was in school the other day and they turned to MTV (Yes we get MTV, BET and everything else except CMT) and I saw the vid for Candy shop and i was very grossed out. Yes I've heardsongs, raps whatever that talk about sex or make sexual suggestions and whatnot but maybe it's my lack of attraction to 50 cent that grossed me out hwne I saw him in this video. that and that female chic (I think her name is Olivia) I just devloped a personal grudge against her for no apparent reason other than the fact that she is supporting 50 cent's popularity and thus circulation of his videos on cable television and thus helping him get richer. That and because she's got just a tad bit more booty than I do and so I feel kinda jealous. But I've definitely got bigger boobies than her so I'm ok.

This reminds me of Mardi Gras this year. Oh yeah.

Peace out.

sikoholickkouboi 02-27-2005 01:58 PM

My problem isn't even so much him as every m*tha that listens to him and acts that way. Ya know, people who think they're thugs, even though they grew up in the same suburbs as I did. LMAO. Morons! I don't think a criminal needs to be a celebrity. He needs to be in jail. And doing what the white dominated media does and saying he's just being black and looking away to seem multicultural should be an insult to intelligent African Americans. I mean no disrespect to those cool listeners who just listen to gangsta rap as simply music. Gangsta isn't helping anything, now, though. At least when NWA came out there was some kinda message. Now gangstas mainstream popularity and attention, if anything, hurts the black cause more than helps. The execs excuse? We're putting out what sells. Riiiight. More like they decide what sells. Like MTV, BET, and all these corps aren't in each others' rich back pockets. Like I said, if you're down with mine and not a total *sshole, I'm down with yours. Bottom line. LMAO about the pope. I already said before you shouldn't wear a symbol like that around you're neck unless you act Christian. They're worshipping bling more than Jesus. Assuming Christianity is right, it should be an insult to God to turn his image into something like this.
A fascist symbol of wealth. Wear it, act like it. Just my opinion, though. ne ways, gotta go.

Growth and Development 02-27-2005 08:03 PM

50 is not the rawest rapper out there but when it comes to it he can flow. Perosonaly im neutral with him. I dont hate him and at the same time im not a big fan. When he does someting big that pushes my decision then Ill decide but until then Ill say he's straight. He is no where near eminem thought

Oh yeah lloyd banks sucks. If you should be dissing anyone on this thread it should be lloyd banks.

hookers with machineguns 02-27-2005 09:56 PM

Lyrically, Lloyd Banks makes fiddy look like a$$. Either way, I really dont care about G Unit or anyone on Aftermath for that matter.


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