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JesseB5446 10-03-2009 08:40 AM

Sublimes new front man.
 
Sublime has a new lead singer who goes by the name of Rome. I can't find much info on him, like where he's from or if he's been in other bands or even his last name. There are however alot of vids of him on youtube. The first vid I watched was the "new Sublime's" rendition of Saw Red featuring some bubblegum, Disney-type bitch who does'nt seem to have ever heard the real song, at all. It made me want to shoot myself in the foot.

Rome looks and sings like an America's Got Talent contestant with his clear voice and great pronunciation. What does that have to do with Brad or Sublime for that matter? I don't see or hear any of Brad's quailities. Don't see or hear any connection to Sublime whatsoever in this kid. He has none of the passion, conviction, angst, cynisism, spirit, voice, or guitar skills that Brad had. So what does Rome bring to the table for Sublime besides a new voice that in my opinion does'nt fit the band or genre?

I've read alot of comments that say "oh wow! he sounds just like Brad"...What!? This guy is an MTV mother fu*#^r and was'nt it Brad who sang "don't wanna be no MTV mother fu*#^r"?

Call me a theorist, but the whole thing smells like money. I got an idea! Let's get Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic together with Clay Aiken and call it Nirvana.





I'd love to hear from you Sublime fans out there.

clutnuckle 10-03-2009 09:52 AM

Some times, you just can't replace things. And it's worthless to try.

This is one of those times.

JesseB5446 10-03-2009 11:51 AM

I don't think it's so much a replacement and I understand that's not what there tryin to do. But please get some one in there that has the... right feel (for lack of words). This guy does'nt have IT. Ya know?

clutnuckle 10-03-2009 05:44 PM

Yeah, but still.

Brad had the soul, and soul isn't something you can easily find a fill-in for. I mean, Sublime gave me some great music, and I really don't have much of a problem with them doing a reunion tour in honor of Brad, maybe. But if they try to record new music using the Sublime name to gain recognition... I will laugh.

kouki 10-04-2009 07:33 AM

^^I agree. Thad be funny if they sold out and started using black eyeliner and make up to try to "fit in". Id laugh my a** off.

JesseB5446 10-04-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle (Post 745990)
Yeah, but still.

Brad had the soul, and soul isn't something you can easily find a fill-in for. I mean, Sublime gave me some great music, and I really don't have much of a problem with them doing a reunion tour in honor of Brad, maybe. But if they try to record new music using the Sublime name to gain recognition... I will laugh.

Xactly.:thumb:

rjstar 10-12-2009 08:35 PM

Rome shreads ! true subime wont be the same without brad,(r.i.p.) but its all about the music ! i saw rome play at eric wilsons halloween party, and he rocks ! .... jesse b5446 i dont see any videos of you singing and playing guitar ....

Macneil1 10-13-2009 07:50 AM

Brad is irreplaceable! I was very sceptical as Sublime are one of my favourite bands of all time but, I do rate Rome, I really like his voice. Im still unsure whether they should carry Sublime on with him though. But I think Eric, Bud and Rome could have a really good sounding band making their own music with their own sound.

I guess its the same as AC/DC. They carried on with Brian Johnson because they saw him fit as a replacement for Bon Scott.

Antonio 10-13-2009 08:35 AM

his voice isn't bad, but his whole air just reeks of bro.

OceanAndSilence 10-13-2009 03:16 PM

i haven't even listened to sublime and i don't like this guy.

music_phantom13 10-13-2009 09:18 PM

Sublime died with Brad. I'm sure he is rolling over in his grave... in fact this will probably end up defiling his legacy. **** Rome.

BTown 10-14-2009 01:23 PM

I really tried to like it, I really wantedto like it but I really don't. Rome looks and sounds like a huge douche.

tgpo 10-14-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by music_phantom13 (Post 751967)
I'm sure he is rolling over in his grave

I'm sure he's rolling something.

+81 10-14-2009 11:32 PM

Zing!

You can't say they don't have similar voices. Are they actually touring or recording stuff or are these just a select few events of Sublime songs being played by a group of people featuring original members of the band. Like lots of big artists they might have a couple people accompanied by hired musicians. Is this looked at as different because it happens to be the singer whose the one not present.

WilliamTeller 10-15-2009 11:20 AM

rome sounds okay i guess for a cover singer, but there's already a sublime cover band that's pretty popular called badfish so this guy's just useless. what about long beach dub allstars? eric wilson should have just kept that going if he really wanted to do more with the sublime style.
and that bitch Kat completely f'd away saw red. she sounds like mtv. she should be shot for trying to infiltrate sublime.

million dollar basher 10-16-2009 12:26 PM

Yeah, if they're bringing Rome in, they should do it under the Long Beach Dub All Stars...not sublime

Phillyboy 10-16-2009 12:53 PM

I think they should have just carried on with LBDAS, anything under the Sublime name should just be deaded sorry. Kinda how I feel about Alice in Chains.

million dollar basher 10-20-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by callharry (Post 755507)
Don't think Brad would agree on this :(

You don't think that Brad would agree with the Rome decission? Or you don't think that Brad would appreciate everybody being so critical?

screemin187 11-02-2009 03:34 PM

I'm amzed that this guy is fronting Sublime. I admit he sounds similiar but its just mind boggling to watch

Brads family aren't impressed - check out this from myspace, official blog

"It was recently announced that Sublime bassist Eric Wilson and Sublime drummer Floyd 'Bud' Gaugh are 'reuniting' and teaming with singer and guitarist Rome Ramirez in a band they intend to call 'Sublime.' Prior to his untimely passing, both Bud and Eric acknowledged that Brad Nowell was the sole owner of the name Sublime. It was Brad's expressed intention that no one use the name Sublime in any group that did not include him, and Brad even registered the trademark 'Sublime' under his own name.
As Brad's heirs, and with the support of his entire family, we only want to respect his wishes and therefore have not consented to Bud and Eric calling their new project 'Sublime.' We have always supported Bud and Eric's musical endeavors and their desire to continue to play Sublime's music. We wholeheartedly supported Bud, Eric and the many talented members of the Sublime posse that formed the Long Beach Dub All-Stars, soon after Brad's death, to honor him through their original recordings, live performances and Sublime music until they disbanded in 2001. But, out of respect for Brad's wishes, we have always refused to endorse any group performing as 'Sublime,' and now with great reluctance feel compelled to take the appropriate legal action to protect Brad's legacy.

Our hope is that Brad's ex-bandmates will respect his wishes and find a new name to perform under, so as to enhance the 'Sublime' legacy without the confusion and disappointment that many fans have expressed upon seeing the announcement.[13]


Gaugh and Wilson also commented on the the lawsuit, saying:

“ On behalf of the band Sublime, founding members Bud Gaugh and Eric Wilson are thrilled by the opportunity to reconnect with their fans around the world. While we all mourn the passing of our brother and bandmate Bradley Nowell some thirteen years ago, Sublime still has a strong message of hope and love to share — a message that is especially important in these difficult times.
Brad's heirs apparently do not share this vision and do not want the band Sublime to continue and tried — unsuccessfully — to file a temporary restraining order to prevent the band from carrying on. Despite those objections, we are pleased that the United States District Court has allowed us to perform as Sublime for all of our fans.

We urge everyone to join us in our message of peace and love, and we look forward to sharing the music we created — the music that defines us

+81 11-02-2009 04:48 PM

If they're truly fans of Sublime I'm sure people will be able to recognize them as Bud and Eric without having them tag on the Sublime name. I gave them the benefit of the doubt at first but now I'm sure their just doing this for the recognition and money.

BTown 11-02-2009 06:14 PM

I agree with +81 this eats ****. What they said on behalf of the band was a bunch of chick shit. I totally agree with Brad's parents, Sublime really shouldn't be reunite, it'd be like getting some bro to replace Kurt Cobain for Nirvana. Rome looks like an ape.

screemin187 11-03-2009 09:28 AM

I don't think there is a Sublime fan on the planet who would be encouraged by this to be honest, the shoe doesn't fit

If a guitarist or drummer dies though, people would accept a replacement, just isn't popular with singers but it still works occasionally. Look at the cult following DC had when they had to make the same decision

I'll be prefectly honest Rome looks like a chump. If he was a toned 6 foot, shaven headed dude with cool ink etc i think people would maybe be more acceptable to new Sublime material (after the initial shock and mumblings of a reformation)

I'm not saying i would, Brads family are opposed and thats a good enough reason for me mixed with my own reservations on the whole thing and the fear it would take away from what Sublime mean't to me in the 90s

But what i'm saying is i think its handy for us that Rome looks ridiculous

+81 11-03-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by screemin187 (Post 762034)

I'll be prefectly honest Rome looks like a chump. If he was a toned 6 foot, shaven headed dude with cool ink etc i think people would maybe be more acceptable to new Sublime material (after the initial shock and mumblings of a reformation)

I don't think that would sweeten the deal for me or most others really. The look has nothing to do with it, it's the fact that it's happening at all.

music_phantom13 11-03-2009 02:08 PM

I don't understand how they can do this? If Brad has the rights to the name, it should be handed down to whoever his will designates and if he didn't want any other band using the name Sublime, I have a hard time believing he would leave the rights to it to his band. The thing is, it's obvious they're doing it for the money and the associated fame, or they wouldn't be violating the wishes of their dead friend. That's just ****ed up.

And if I was his parents and they were flat out ignoring my dead son's wishes, I'd probably follow them around and throw rocks through their drums.

screemin187 11-03-2009 02:28 PM

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I don't think that would sweeten the deal for me or most others really. The look has nothing to do with it, it's the fact that it's happening at all
All i was meaning is that if the guy fitted the band a little better there are people out there that would buy new material

On the net and from various discussions i've had there seem to be more people concerned over the guys image that the morals and wishes of bradley's estate

+81 11-03-2009 06:01 PM

Those are the people who buy Misfits shirts and have no idea they're even a band.

music_phantom13 11-03-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by +81 (Post 762305)
Those are the people who buy Misfits shirts and have no idea they're even a band.

That's very true, because a friend of mine told me he was going to go see a Misfits concert pretty recently. Why anyone would want to do that is beyond me. He had no idea that Glenn Danzig was the original singer, or that he had left the band. Nor did he realize that the bassist Jerry Only was not only the only original member still in the band, but in fact the only member that even played with The Misftis when they were around. I don't see how you could buy tickets to a Misfits concert and not know that... but w/e. At least he knew they're a band.

screemin187 11-04-2009 01:36 AM

Agreed, thats what i was meaning dude and theres a hell of a lot of them about

Eric & Bud's target market as far as i'm concerned

clutnuckle 11-04-2009 02:36 PM

I saw a girl wearing a Misfits shirt the other day. It saddens me to know that they either think it's just a design, or a really bad (version of a) band. Because trust me, this was one of those girls who wouldn't know good music if it was in her face.

But I like the parallel drawn here -- In a lot of ways, so-called Sublime is doing exactly what the so-called Misfits did. Take a decently-popular name and attach it to something it was never meant to represent.

sidewinder 11-04-2009 06:15 PM

Fucking hell, for real?! This is the first time I've heard of this, WTF? :banghead:

I'm no Sublime fanboy but I like a good amount of their stuff and just can't believe they would "reunite" with some new guy. I don't care if this guy can sing, or whether he's a chump or not, although it's true he looks like a sissy and Brad's vibe was part of what Sublime was. I just think it's lame for them to bring back the name especially after Long Beach Dub All-Stars, as some of you have said.

Definitely smells like money. Otherwise why not just continue the side project or start something new altogether? It's all about name recognition. I also felt the same way about Alice in Chains, as mentioned, but since Jerry contributed a lot of the vocals in the past already, and still does on the new stuff, whatever. This is different.

And I'm not all up in arms about it, I'm more shocked to hear this than anything. Sublime in dead. And if Brad did have the right to the name, his band mates and supposed "friends" are assholes for trying to use it.

kouki 11-07-2009 09:37 AM

Its the hard times that are motivating them to do this.Come on guys cut em some slack,they gotta pay their bills one way or another.I was actually thinking of changing my name to Michael Jackson.:pimp::p:

NYGfan303 11-07-2009 02:16 PM

They should not of got a new front man. Bradley can't ever by adequetly replaced.

BTown 11-09-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kouki (Post 764064)
Its the hard times that are motivating them to do this.Come on guys cut em some slack,they gotta pay their bills one way or another.I was actually thinking of changing my name to Michael Jackson.:pimp::p:

When it comes between money and honor a dead friend (and legend) friendship comes first in my book.

kouki 11-09-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BTown787 (Post 764952)
When it comes between money and honor a dead friend (and legend) friendship comes first in my book.

I wasnt being serious,it was more like a joke.

Caleb48kb 11-21-2009 07:19 PM

I would still go see these guys, even with the new front man.

Axiomatic Wiki 11-21-2009 08:09 PM

They are not sublime. A lawsuit was filed upon them earlier this month, ruled that they are not sublime, and are not allowed to perform under the sublime name with, or without Rome.

that said, if he can write good songs and sing well, I could care less. I loved sublime when Bradly was the powerhouse behind it, and I wont think of them as the same band with this new guy, but if they make good music, then they make good music.

xxcookiemonster17 11-23-2009 06:58 PM

Bradley WAS sublime. they just need money is all. Not worth my time.

BTown 11-27-2009 12:20 AM

I rethought this and came to the conclusion I wouldn't mind them touring under the name but I'd be pissed if they released an album. I'd still pay a ****load to see them live.

Axiomatic Wiki 11-27-2009 01:58 PM

As I said before, neither will happen.

ElephantSack 11-28-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Macneil1 (Post 751622)
Brad is irreplaceable! I was very sceptical as Sublime are one of my favourite bands of all time but, I do rate Rome, I really like his voice. Im still unsure whether they should carry Sublime on with him though. But I think Eric, Bud and Rome could have a really good sounding band making their own music with their own sound.

I guess its the same as AC/DC. They carried on with Brian Johnson because they saw him fit as a replacement for Bon Scott.

Yes, and we all know what happened after that. It was a different time, though. And it happened pretty much directly following Bon's death.

But with the Sublime thing, its been over ten years since Brad died or Sublime released an album. And since then, Sublime's music has still carried on, and is probably more popular than it ever was when he was alive.

The cult of Sublime will more than likely not accept anything other than what they know and love as Sublime. A different voice. A different feel. A different band. Not Sublime, though. Because their music was so groove and feel oriented that anything else will just sound like a cover band.


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