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Old 05-12-2017, 03:11 AM   #201 (permalink)
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Chula, you and I seem to like 99.9% of the same artists. You can take that however you'd like. Even if it's just a cross section of your library I'm a tad astonished.

On another note, I always thought Evanescence were a blander, somewhat mainstreamier take on what Lacuna Coil were doing. They both established their audiences around the same timeframe but the latter band had better songwriting (generally).
I don't give too much of a **** about a lot of Lacuna Coil, but Comalies is still a pretty sweet album, even if the cheesy alt metal riffs are lame. Definitely better than Evanescence at least.
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Old 05-12-2017, 09:10 AM   #202 (permalink)
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Page was cliched based on all of his session and live work prior to Zeppelin. He played on so many albums it's ridiculous.

You know that The Yardbirds' Little Games was released prior to Are You Experienced by Hendrix?

This is Page doing the strumming.
I'm glad that you can still find ways to completely miss straightforward points in these trying times.

And yes, I am aware that the Yawnbirds came before Hendrix.
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Old 05-12-2017, 09:13 AM   #203 (permalink)
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Old 05-12-2017, 12:55 PM   #204 (permalink)
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And yes, I am aware that the Yawnbirds came before Hendrix.
Yawnbirds? The band that launched the careers of Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, and Jimmy Page? As well as introduced the music world to the rave up jam form?

Son, your priorities are completely whacked.
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I appreciate that it was where they got their start, I just think their music is incredibly boring (numero uno priority for me when it comes to whether or not I like music).
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I appreciate that it was where they got their start, I just think their music is incredibly boring (numero uno priority for me when it comes to whether or not I like music).
I get it. With some music it's really hard to appreciate it in hindsight. The Yardbirds were slightly before my time. I discovered all 3 of those guys after they'd moved on (Cream, Beck's Truth, and LZ1).

Still pretty mindblowing that you could ask 1,000 rock guitarists or critics today who were the top 10 most iconic players of all time, and a large percentage of them would name 3 guys who all played in the same band at one point.
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I get it. With some music it's really hard to appreciate it in hindsight. The Yardbirds were slightly before my time. I discovered all 3 of those guys after they'd moved on (Cream, Beck's Truth, and LZ1).
Same with the bolded, so the letdown factor probably plays a big role in my opinion on the band.

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Still pretty mindblowing that you could ask 1,000 rock guitarists or critics today who were the top 10 most iconic players of all time, and a large percentage of them would name 3 guys who all played in the same band at one point.
You think Jeff Beck has that much pull?

They all played in a major role in shaping the genre so it's not really surprising to me.
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You think Jeff Beck has that much pull?
Among players? Yes. Truth, Blow by Blow, Wired, and Guitar Shop have had players bowing down for decades. I'm not a big fan of the fact he ditched the pick and only uses strats these days, but damn, he's etched out a sound that's so unique and recognizable.

Tal and Vinnie are no slouches either (understatement of the century)

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Among players? Yes. Truth, Blow by Blow, Wired, and Guitar Shop have had players bowing down for decades. I'm not a big fan of the fact he ditched the pick and only uses strats these days, but damn, he's etched out a sound that's so unique and recognizable.
You might be right but I'm still wary. I think the statement would have been true in the 70s or 80s, but a lot has changed since then and I think he's become increasingly overlooked over the years. Plus when the question is who is the most iconic, I don't think he's even close to in the running. Singular and talented? Sure. Iconic? No.

An example so you get where I'm coming from: I personally think that Masayuki Takayanagi turned the electric guitar world on its head and nobody has done it to that degree since then and you could easily map his influence on the genre, but I would never refer to him as iconic.

It's hard to tell though. I guess we'll just have to wait for the question to come up on Family Feud to see who's right.
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Masayuki Takayanagi.
Seriously? That guy was only going to appeal to a tiny percentage of the music public and that's why I'd never even heard of him before your post. Beck has spanned decades and has gained fans and public and professional respect along the way. There's not a top shelf rock player who doesn't bow down to Beck.

He's in the upper pantheon of the greatest electric rock guitars players.



And before you start with your usualy BS about sales, awards, etc., this IS a popularity contest, and not a who's my idea of the best obscure player ever who simply got tossed to the curb my the masses.

Again, ask 1,000 rock guitarists and Beck will make the top 10 of a majority of lists.
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