Well, when it is needed is all according to the songwriter, the listener just decides what they like and what they don't like... Whos to say a complex solo passage deviates from what the songwriter originally wanted?

Because it's made up on the spot it's worse? Bull shit

I kinda worked that out for myself

Where did I say it was worse?

Improvising isn't bad at all, it's a very energetic and exciting form of performance, not to mention its a very challenging but creative process... Also, a lot of rock n roll bands improvise then lie about it.

it was in reference to urban.

And urban, no, you did not directly say that. But did demean live guitar solos but didnt say anything about having a dislike for Bach's

You seem to be trying to argue a subjective point with logic and it`s not working.

You seem trying to get the point across that solos are a part of songs and that some songs are written primarily with one instrument in mind.... Well thats fine. I accept that they`re written in the context of the song.

But that doesn`t mean that I have to like them , just in the same way that i`d wouldn`t like just any song with no solos in them.You`re basically trying to paint it in black & white.By all means write a technical solo passage in a song.What i`m trying to say is i`ll judge it by the song , not the solo.If it fits the song then great.But if I think the song is rubbish then I won`t listen to it.Regardless of how great the solo is.

nikki is still the best

Fine, coffee anyone?

If you're deaf, maybe.