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View Poll Results: Best Guitarist
Jimi Hendrix 24 64.86%
Jimmy Page 13 35.14%
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:29 AM   #181 (permalink)
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You wasted your time. You forgot about composition. Skill wasn't the only factor.
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:36 AM   #182 (permalink)
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You wasted your time. You forgot about composition. Skill wasn't the only factor.
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Its not my opinion that Cobain was a technicaly weak guitarist, its a cold hard fact...Technical skill can and should be measured objectively and based on facts and every aspect of technical skill, im pretty damn sure no one voted for Cobain seriously thinking he is the most technicaly skilled guitarist, more likely it was the following.

1. They havent heard of the other players, so they vote Cobain.
2. They dont understand the concept of technical skill and instead they chose to go by their favorite.
3. They voted for Cobain as a joke.

You may like someones riffs, but it dosent make them skilled, if you know just 3 chords you can make a whole variety of riffs based on just those chords alone, Cobain just happened to have a great ear for melody and he wrote some of the greatest riffs of all time, but his riffs are great because of their ridiculous catchyness, not because of their complexity or dificulty, where technical skill is actualy a factor, i can make a catchy riff (though not as good as Cobains riffs) but does that mean i have more technical skill than Yngwie Malmsteen?...No it dosent.

I have heard Cobains entire discography, he could usualy play clean and not screw up, but that is primarly because pretty much everything he plays is simple, the most complex riff he has ever done is Mr. Moustache, and thats nothing a high school kid cant figure out in a couple of weeks.

Technical skill in terms of guitar playing should be judged on these factors.

- Overall experience and knowledge of the guitar.

- Ability to both compose and perform complex riffs, solos and fills.

- Ability to play different genres and styles of guitar.

- Ability to play in various time signatures and scales.

- Ability to play cleanly and without missing or messing up notes.

- Ability to master a variety of different techniques, such as finger picking, alternate picking, hybrid picking, sweep picking, speed, legato, tapping, bending, tremollo, vibrato, soloing, riffing, phrasing, timing and improve ability.
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I only listen to Santana when I feel like being annoyed.
I only listen to you talk when I want to hear Emo performed acapella.
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:37 AM   #183 (permalink)
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What I mean is, the people who voted for Cobain don't agree with you on what skill is obviously. They probably don't agree with "You may like someones riffs, but it dosent make them skilled." And btw you contradicted yourself.
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What I mean is, the people who voted for Cobain don't agree with you on what skill is obviously. They probably don't agree with "You may like someones riffs, but it dosent make them skilled." And btw you contradicted yourself.
I could fart and someone would find it funny, it dosent make me a talented comedian.

How did i contradict myself?

And no, thats not my opinion, those are the factors of skill, anyone who knows theory knows that, and if you want to bring in your own theory, then by all means feel free to share your wisdom.
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:48 AM   #185 (permalink)
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You just don't get what I'm saying. I agree with you that you can measure technical skill, but when it comes to things like composition, you just can't measure it and that's what the poll was also about, not just about technical skill. Of course Cobain is a stupid choice if it was just that, but like you said, it was his killer riffs that made him good or "skilled," as you put it, in the eyes of some.

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What I mean is, the people who voted for Cobain don't agree with you on what skill is obviously. They probably don't agree with "You may like someones riffs, but it dosent make them skilled." And btw you contradicted yourself.
And thats exactly why they voted for Cobain instead of Vai or the likes of. They just don't get it.
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ROFL. In other words I win yet another argument. lol
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ROFL. In other words I win yet another argument. lol

If that is how you want to see it. It would be by default because you are being a closed-minded ignorant fool by saying the same things over and over again. Your past 100 posts have been in this thread, the drummer thread, the DT thread which is no more, and the "Emo Class" thread. I have yet to see you post about a new band you like or say something that isn't fabracated to go against the majority. If you are here to troll, then good job you are a pretty good one, but if not you are one sad member of society. Go listen to DT and tell people that they are wrong for liking someone based on the fact that they just like them. I like Green Day are you going to flame at me because they aren't technically skilled, or that they don't write metaphoric songs? Or how about that they aren't insanily fast?

Have fun struggling in a world of compromises.
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ROFL. In other words I win yet another argument. lol
No, i've just learned that what im basicly doing is like trying to teach a caveman how to recite Shakespere, its just a waste of time.
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