Image over music (fan, Kurt Cobain, Nirvana, Kiss, quote)

ShadowSurfer · 04-08-2006, 09:53 PM

even bands who had 'no image' had an image. not having an image was their image.

Kurt Cobains ripped jeans and flannel shirt was as much of a costume as anything Gene Simmons wears.
I don't say this to diss Kurt, as I am a fan of his music, but too many of his fans think there was no image or no fame seeking involved on their part, when they carefully crafted an image and sold it just like every other successful band.

So many people say Kurt didnt want to be famous and hated the whole idea. Ya, some guy from geffen threw a dart on map and then knocked on Kurt's door in Aberdeen and said we picked YOU!!!! Get real. Kurt studied it and made his move and worked HIS ASS OFF to get famous. He wanted the fame then acted like he never wanted it, which is a total lie - he worked way to hard in an attempt to get fame for that to have one iota of truth to it. And that is basically the image he crafted for himself. The ripped jeans and flannell were everybit a costume as anything KISS wears.

.....interesting.

~~hiu~~ · 04-09-2006, 02:08 AM

Perhaps he just wore the clothes his mother bought for him.

boo boo · 04-09-2006, 02:27 AM

Golly gee, a KISS fan lecturing us about bands that favour image over music.

And pretty much everyone in the grunge scene dressed the way Cobain did, before Nirvana were even around, they wore cheap blue jeans and flannel as a rejection against expensive and trendy clothes.

jibber · 04-09-2006, 02:37 AM

not to be antagonistic, but what's your point? everyone sends out an image when they choose what kind of clothes to wear, what their hair is gonna look like, etc. etc. It's not a bad thing it's just a fact of life, people judge people on looks, so it's inevitable that someone will be percieved in a certain way based on appearance.

Cheese · 04-09-2006, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

And pretty much everyone in the grunge scene dressed the way Cobain did, before Nirvana were even around, they wore cheap blue jeans and flannel as a rejection against expensive and trendy clothes.

I wore cheap blue jeans and flannel long before grunge came around.

Do you think they got their image from me? I highly doubt it too.

tdoc210 · 04-09-2006, 10:46 AM

shadow surfer= effing retarded, yah ripped jeans and flannel shirts woo hoo! kiss equals stupid costumes and hair and makeup..just so people will go to see their lame ass music

sleepy jack · 04-09-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber

not to be antagonistic, but what's your point? everyone sends out an image when they choose what kind of clothes to wear, what their hair is gonna look like, etc. etc. It's not a bad thing it's just a fact of life, people judge people on looks, so it's inevitable that someone will be percieved in a certain way based on appearance.

His point is hes trying to piss off certain people, because hes angry over the Kiss/Green Day threads.

ShadowSurfer · 04-09-2006, 10:58 AM

No, the point is, Kurt's ripped jeans and flannel shirt was every bit the costume as anything KISS wore.

ShadowSurfer · 04-09-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by the death of capitilism

shadow surfer= effing retarded, yah ripped jeans and flannel shirts woo hoo! kiss equals stupid costumes and hair and makeup..just so people will go to see their lame ass music

in your opinion.

judas_priest · 04-09-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber

not to be antagonistic, but what's your point? everyone sends out an image when they choose what kind of clothes to wear, what their hair is gonna look like, etc. etc. It's not a bad thing it's just a fact of life, people judge people on looks, so it's inevitable that someone will be percieved in a certain way based on appearance.

true.

04-08-2006, 09:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
ShadowSurfer Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Side II of Band Of Gypsies Posts: 310	Image over music even bands who had 'no image' had an image. not having an image was their image. Kurt Cobains ripped jeans and flannel shirt was as much of a costume as anything Gene Simmons wears. I don't say this to diss Kurt, as I am a fan of his music, but too many of his fans think there was no image or no fame seeking involved on their part, when they carefully crafted an image and sold it just like every other successful band. So many people say Kurt didnt want to be famous and hated the whole idea. Ya, some guy from geffen threw a dart on map and then knocked on Kurt's door in Aberdeen and said we picked YOU!!!! Get real. Kurt studied it and made his move and worked HIS ASS OFF to get famous. He wanted the fame then acted like he never wanted it, which is a total lie - he worked way to hard in an attempt to get fame for that to have one iota of truth to it. And that is basically the image he crafted for himself. The ripped jeans and flannell were everybit a costume as anything KISS wears. .....interesting.

04-09-2006, 02:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,536	not to be antagonistic, but what's your point? everyone sends out an image when they choose what kind of clothes to wear, what their hair is gonna look like, etc. etc. It's not a bad thing it's just a fact of life, people judge people on looks, so it's inevitable that someone will be percieved in a certain way based on appearance. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

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tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	shadow surfer= effing retarded, yah ripped jeans and flannel shirts woo hoo! kiss equals stupid costumes and hair and makeup..just so people will go to see their lame ass music __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

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~~hiu~~ Account Disabled Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,174	Perhaps he just wore the clothes his mother bought for him.

04-09-2006, 10:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
ShadowSurfer Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Side II of Band Of Gypsies Posts: 310	No, the point is, Kurt's ripped jeans and flannel shirt was every bit the costume as anything KISS wore.