Ah, see that makes it a lot clearer. Anyway on a less dark note, we should stop arguing about the same thing in two different threads.

Well you're rationalizing... Maybe you're not Don after all. =P

If so then i appologise, me and this Don fellow had a horribly bad relationship, and he was banned just recently, so it's likely that he could start another account.

Yeah well don't worry, I'm just hoping that the next time I go a bit over the top someone will say in a normal adult manor to calm down.

anyway I'm sorry i offended anyone but I just get a bit sick of politcaly active bands that just scream out **** the system and expecially **** the police.
I agree that sometimes they're not that fantastic but they still are needed right?

That was what I was trying to say.

They both suck equally.. in my opinion of course.

Again sound devestation, why do they suck?

cause the music is bad? ive talked about SOAD in the other thread... Rage, do my head in for similar reasons, and because their riffs are all very similar and dont go anywhere. i hate bands whos songs have the same riff all the way though... dont they get bored playing it?

Again I completely agree.

Rage sucks? What is wrong with yall? Tom Morello is great. Not only is he creative in his style but hes also pretty technically good. And Zach De La Rocha is better than any rapper out there today with some pretty good lyrics to match. They make music that stands for something. They bring some pretty important matters to peoples attention, like the case of Leonard Peltier. We need Rage to come back and make some new music, we could use more bands like them.

You hate artists who dont agree with their government? I guess who hate people who dont agree with their government. Which is pretty stupid.

Zach does not just scream out "**** the system", this song is a poor example because this isnt even a Rage song. He actually has some pretty intelligent lyrics about the state of society today.

I highly doubt Dax is going to log in after 5 years to see your reply. There no real reason to bump a 5-year old thread either.

I've seen RATM live and they are pretty tight, but on record they bore me. They're kind of like political rock for beginners to be honest. SOAD I can tolerate a bit more as they're a bit more musically original and don't take themselves too seriously, but still these days I would go elsewhere for my political fix.

I didnt realize this was 5 years old. I dont like SOAD, they annoy me. I hardly listen to Rage anymore but theyre still bad ass. Better than any other rap-rock group.