Music Banter - System of a Down

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That's only in their political (and stupid) songs. Have you seen the lyrics to CUBErt? Spiders? Streamline? Highway Song? DDevil? ATWA? Forest? Aerials?

I could go on.

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

Nu Metal is laughable, not political.

And you call me narrow minded. :laughing:

Given that a lot of Nu Metal just plain sucks, but dismissing a whole genre is something else, you're doing a "this genre is better than that genre" game, i have played that game myself and it didn't do me any good whatsoever, don't make the same mistake... I don't really consider Rage nu metal either even if they did strongly influence the genre.... I wouldn't compare their lyrics to SOADs in any way, RATM's lyrics are a lot more planned out and meaningful.... And of course RATM are ridiculously better musicians.

If you disagree thats fine, but dont start some big rant about how i'm wrong and you're right, whats the point??.... I also think many of the bands you like suck major ass, i only choose not to be abrasive about it.

Rage was ranting about the government before it was "Punk RAwk" and Trendy

Exactly... It's stupid to blame them for Nu Metal.... Hate the game, not the player.

Pete Seeger was being political when punk rock was being started. He doesnt get the respect he needs for being a lyrical genious so I certainly won't give a spit on Serj

Jethro Tull were political long before punk rock. ;)

Also MC5 and Creedence Clearwater Rivival wrote some great protest songs.

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

Their lyrics are straightforward, and ridiculous.

Why don't presidents fight the war
Why do they always send the poor

Did anyone have difficulty decifering what they were trying to say here?

How about the Prison Song rant:

They're tryin' to build a prison
For you and me to live in

Once again, pretty straight forward.
They aren't even good lyrics.

I agree with whoever said they were like Playskool My First Political Band.
I'll say it again, if you want good politics in your music, I just can't find it in rock music. Rap is tenfold greater in my opinion when it comes to producing artists who can articulate a political message. Immortal Technique, Dead Prez, JMT. They all do it so much better than SOAD or RATM could ever do.
Country/Folk music also produces musicians who are just so much better at poltical music. Nu Metal is laughable, not political.

Good God, Quit going at B.Y.O.B and Prison Song, that's all you have been criticsizing. We know SOAD are weak when it comes to politics, now how about a comparision to their other songs, mainly their older stuff. And don't give the general "simple chord ****" because that is pretty narrow minded.

and kinda like what Boo Boo said, dismissing a whole genre as bad loses your credibility.

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Jethro Tull were political long before punk rock. ;)

Also MC5 and Creedence Clearwater Rivival wrote some great protest songs.

:) heck yes

Can someone show me where I called Rage Nu-Metal?
I don't think Rage are any better than SOAD.

And saying that Nu-Metal is laughable, isn't writing off an entire genre.
It's writing of an entire sub-genre, and I'm fine with that :)

Sub genres are genres...

And again, i think a lot of indie sucks, but i'm not going to flat dismiss every band under a indie label simply because of that... Since i also like a lot of indie bands, saying all nu metal sucks based on one band is like saying all Jazz sucks based on Kenny G.

And RATM are hella better than SOAD.

...............Shut up Urban. :)