I love female musicians.

Sorry, but I can't stand it when guys complain about things like girls going to metal shows.

Sorry, I really have nothing against women; quite the contrary, in fact: I rather enjoy them. I was just stating my opinion.

lol ^


sorry bruise, that made me laugh loud.

I can, 90% of chicks at shows are a waste of space. Its not just because they're girls, guys can do the same thing, but girls do it more.

Well, I suppose I am a bit biased, as I am a girl and listen to female musicians that I obviously think are good, and to tell the truth the only 'metal women' I have heard were Kitty, and I couldn't stand them.

I just want to stick up for my girls :(

:laughing:

...kidding, right?

Metal isn't my thing, but I don't see why girls can't be part of it.

I just hate Kitty.

Still entirely accurate.

Most of them don't want to be, I can understand why, as heavy metal is nothing more than an endless sea of repressed homosexual young men who brag about their machoness and how "rebelious" they are for listening to the nastiest, wankiest and most godawful music possible.

It's called opinion, You are incredibly ignorant and narrow minded if you make generalizations like that.

You obviously know nothing about the metal community, you might want to look outside the Metalcore kiddies in your school.

and right away I can tell your one of those people who will never change there opinions even though they know there wrong so im going to spare myself the time and go listen to some music instead of sitting here and listening to someone talk about machoness, even though you yourself are doing exactly what they say your against.

I don't recall ever claiming to be macho, and I don't know where the f*ck you'd get the idea that I am (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just mentally retarded) overall I'm probably the biggest pussy on the forum.

And it is a generalization, but if you like Metal thats fine, I consider my discription to be accurate enough, and the fact that my brother is a Metalhead and I'm exposed to obsessed Power and Death Metal fans on a regular basis, I can say pretty confidently that I know what I'm talking about, Metal fans are factually proven to be d*cks.

Nor is it mine. In fact, I detest it.

You just be igowant, yo.

Lol you don't even see what your doing, your brothers friends do not count for the entire population of metal heads, im guessing he listens to metalcore etc. and he doen't even count for half of those people either. there are tons of metalheads myself included do not listen to metal because were pissed off and our mommies never loved us, I listen to metal because they are extremely talented not because its angry.

I know you think them music is god awful but you haven't been exposed to it enough to know how good it actually is.

Oh and if you could please give me the links to these places that say that all metalheads are *******s I would very much appreciate it.


because your sitting here arguing over the internet about somthing you don't know enough about to understand.

:confused:
Nuh-uh!

Oh yeah, theres also the tons of idiots I meet on music forums as well.

I dislike metalheads, all and all, the only real problem I have with metal is pretty much everything it stands for, not to mention it's core fan base... I loath them as people, and I see them as nothing more than bullies.

I actually do like metal FYI (prog metal :)) but I detest most power metal and pretty much everything that falls under extreme metal (death metal, black metal, etc)... Granted I like thrash (and ironically the most unapollogetically macho of the bunch) but thats more based on the music itself rather than it's priciples, at least it dosen't give me serious ear damage.

Lol again making sweeping generalizations of the ENTIRE metal community.

your mostly as bad as the hardcore christans, they make huge generalizations about people especially us, and they know nothing about us, they treat us as less of a person, even though we actually have lives.

WTF??? power metal is extreme?? thats probally the most music based genre and the most un-macho of the bunch. Black Metal/Death Metal grows on you after a while, I hated it before but now im starting to get into Emperor, Ishan, Immortal, Old Satyricon.

Im still a power metalhead through and through though.

Well aside from the fact that most metal IS unhealthy to listen to, I don't recall this whole generalizing about the WHOLE genre, as I just said I like some metal, and granted I get along with my brother and tollerate most of the music he listens to, I don't believe all metal fans are assh*les, but in general they are, at least extreme metal fans, no scratch that.... ESPECIALLY extreme metal fans.

You can say I'm biased (and I'm most certainly am) but I also dispise most prog fans with a passion, so just accept that metal isn't the best genre ever, especially when most of it is just sexist, neo fascist garbage.

EDIT: Power metal eh, no wonder your grammar is so bad, you must be 12.

Oh yeah, you're a goddamn idiot, I said power metal AND extreme metal, goddamn, stupid metalhead.

Funny I don't seem to be homoerotic, I certanly never hated any women before. I have never worshipped satan nor do I intend to. and i've never seen any extreme metal wankaphons but could you tell me where they are?

Im not saying I count for the entire population but from what i've seen most people/bands do not actually do thing that are in the music.

yeah kind of like that guy who gained 20 pounds and had a kidney stone from listeing to too much Nevermore :rolleyes:

Neways im tired going to bed, there will be people that will be *******s that are not in metal...there will always be *******s so don't pin it on just us, the worlds full of them.

Yes???
you might wan't too go back and look again before you call someone an idiot. :laughing:
I don't see anything wrong with what I said but if you picked up sothing I didn't then thats about as good as your going to get out of me at 2:00 AM.

Unhealthy in various ways, for example Mayhem and bands of the like, to me it's the equalvent of nazi propagonda, because thats what most of it is, the lyrics are excessively sexist, racist, anti captitalistic and downright ridiculous attempts at poetry and shock value... I don't get how Mayhem's music does NOT have some kind of negative effect on the people that listen to them.

Another example is that most metalheads now are brainwashed into believeing that if it dosen't sound like bees in a jar, it's not musicianship, speed is everything nowadays, and it's more or less a substitute for actual creativity, I have listened to Rusty Cooley, and I was very convinced that it actually made me dumber by doing so, so as for the state of people who listen to Cooley on a regular basis, I can only imagine what is going on in their heads, if anything at all... But aside from that, I can imagine it's very physically unhealthy to listen to as well, eardrums were not meant to take such punishment.

Yes but it doesn't mean they are actually like that (although in Mayhems case i'd have a hard time not believing it)

Yes there is plenty of people that like speed nowadays including myself but I love listening to it, and ill be damned if that isin't hard to play, but I don't just like speed, my favorite Musucian is Jens Johansson the keyboardist for Stratovarius and he's not all about speed he's got plenty of originality and is incredible at phrasing and improv.

Im not a big fan of Rusty but I like some things like that IE. Dragonforce mainly because its cheesy and the solos are fun to listen too.

Of course it's hard to play like Cooley and Batio, they're damn good at what they do, I'm not denying that, shredding is extremely hard to do, then again, it would also be hard to open 1000 cans of Pepsi with your buttcheeks, that dosen't make it a useful skill. ;)

Not that speed can't be used in good ways, I know plenty of great bands that use speed in very creative ways, including many metal bands... But good shredders nowadays are rare, hell, Batio, Cooley, whatever... It all sounds exactly the same to me.

Anyway, I do like a lot of metal, I listen to a lot of thrash metal, prog metal, a little doom and goth metal here and there, and Dimmu Borgir, so thats at least one black metal band I like... Reving you up has lost it's fun quickly, so lets call a truce and have a drink on me because I'm tired of arguing with complete strangers over the same exact thing over and over again, you are by no means the first metalhead I have had nasty words with on the internet, far from it... I just hope you know that it's not just some secret agenda I have agains't metal, as I criticize all genres equally... Hell, I used to tease everyone on the prog forum for liking Marillion. :laughing:

I'm bored, I wonder whats on Adult Swim right now.

yeah everybody keeps saying that...I guess im just different I never get bored of that stuff :hphones:


everybody keeps saying Dream Theater are incredibly boring and put them to sleep when it does the exact opposite....nfact the only reason im talking right now is because I have Into Eternity on...

I dislike Dream Theater imensely, one primary reason is that people use them as an example for disliking progressive rock, but that being said it's no different than me using Mayhem as an example for metal, so I appologise, our stances are rather similar, so I realise that I have been a big hypocrite... Lets just forget the whole thing.

We coo

People say Dream Theater sucks because it's the truth. Pure mediocrity.

/agree
Although I do like death metal. And metalcore.

Mainly it's just the fanbase I dislike: huge, grungy lowlifes with long, black hair. "WORSHIP SATAN!"

Let's not.

(Yes I know that's an extreme, not to mention ignorant, generalization. So bite me.)

Hm. It would appear one cannot find mature, intelligent forum-goers anymore.

Pity.

Can someone give me some more 'metal women' to listen to?

As I mostly listen to riot grrrl style stuff.

Arch Enemy.




and boo boo, I dislike the general attitude of metal heads as well (which is a bit hypocritical because I listen to Metal), but to make those generalizations that you said is plain ignorant. I know you are better than that, I hold deep respect to your music tastes and opinions. I know you were able to come to terms at the end but I hope you learn something out of it.

Ooh I forgot about Arch Enemy, not bad.

What i`ve learned from this thread so far......

It`s OK to generalise women as being bad at metal and lame at shows , but generalizing metal fans is a total no no.

:laughing:

I never said that they shouldn't be at shows.

Otep, Light This City and Walls of Jericho as well. Awesome awesome stuff. And both those girls could could kick the ass of any guy here. And Candace in Walls of Jericho got THE BEST moshes going at Ozzfest in Detroit. Like circle pits galore, it was insane......and I got punched in the face like twice.:(

sounds like your giving a therapy session or something, no offense

anyway, ive never really noticed a general attitude in metalheads, but people keep saying their dumbasses and narrow-minded, i dont know where that comes from honestly, most kids i know that listen to metal appreciate other forms of music

I wasn't debasing anyone; rather, I was expressing an observation. Stereotypes, despite popular belief, are not mere fabrications of ignorant minds.

THANK YOU!!!

I didn't have the balls to say it, but I knew you would. :love:

Women should cook my meals, clean my house, and have my children. Nothing more.

I'd love to bite your dick off.

lol.
SHES A BITERR!1
like that one chick ben.
*two
m i rite