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Old 10-08-2006, 09:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Why are they good, because they can play fast? That just means they've built up muscle memory. That doesn't make them good musicians.
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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They have the technical ability to play guitar VERY well.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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When did i ever say "They are great songwriters"


Never.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah, they're both very talented..just not when it comes to writing..They are good guitarists..maybe not writers.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:58 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Please tell me you used hyperbole to illustrate a point.
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Old 10-09-2006, 08:25 AM   #16 (permalink)
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To me when you call someone a good guitarist you are calling them a good musician. And to me being a good musician* there are two parts technical skill and creative writing ability. One all by itself is pure ****. Wanking without coherantcy is pointless and so is good writing with someone messing up every measure.


*not over all just as far as puting out an album. If I were speaking about over all reading and having a good ear would be included but, seeing how you can not hear either of those through a song they arent relevant
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Technical ability does not have to involve writing at all. Some people can be really good at what they do but cant write for ****. Thats why there are composers and lyricists and arrangers who cant even play an instrument, but they sure are damn good at what they do.
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Old 10-09-2006, 02:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Why are they good, because they can play fast? That just means they've built up muscle memory. That doesn't make them good musicians.
You don't know a damn thing about good musicians, let alone heard anything Yngwie has done outside of his G3 crap, likely.
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You said that they're good guitarists.
Wow, you're pretty retarded, last time I checked those were two completely different things.

Theres a goddamn difference between good songwriters and good musicians.

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Anybody can sit there, play scales over and over and build up speed. Songwriting is where real talent shows.
Absolutely not, it takes a lot of time and effort to play what Yngwie does (regardless of how horrible you think it sounds), thinking otherwise clearly shows how little you know about guitar.

I play guitar, it isn't easy sh*t to remember, let alone actually play.

Songwriting isn't all that matters, because I don't give a sh*t how much of a songwriter you are if you're not even good enough to get a decent sound out of the instrument you're playing, and overall your own idea of good songwriting is probably annoying little jingles like the ones Isaac Brock writes, which really requires no real effort unless you're mentally challenged... Being a good guitarist is pretty damn hard to do, Yngwie at least devoted his time to learning how to play the instrument, as opposed to you listening to godawful indie music and judging musicians calling them good or bad like you have the f*cking right, or knowledge for that matter.
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You don't know a damn thing about good musicians, let alone heard anything Yngwie has done outside of his G3 crap, likely.
My post was suppose to provoke an explanation of why either were any good but I haven't got it yet. I've heard enough Yngwie to know he's nothing worth listening to.
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