Most Underrated and Overlooked Guitarists (singer, funk, metal, rock)

Rainard Jalen · 01-15-2007, 02:24 PM

I thought this might be an interesting topic to explore. Either that, or nobody'll give a damn enough to contribute, but it interests me anyway, and hopefully others will view it with a similar keenness. Basically, the idea is to think of some of the most either overlooked, or just plain underrated rock/metal guitar players out there.

I thought I'd start this one up with none other than Tool's Adam Jones - mostly because the reasons often given for treating him with disdain tend to irk me, either out of sheer redundancy, or otherwise just general lameness - also because it gives me a chance to rant!

For starters, your typical popular rock act seldom has particularly demanding guitar parts. What Adam Jones does, while not being hugely demanding in a technical sense, is a fair deal more complex and sophisticated than what you find with at least 70% of most standard bands out there - so why he's singled out among other guitar players who don't tend to play demanding parts is beyond me. But more importantly... while it is true that Adam Jones is not some guitar virtuoso who does things that make you stop and go "holy f'n WOW, that's IMPOSSIBLE!"... while he's no Hanneman or King, or Iommi or Rhoades, or Angus Young or whatever... the thing is...

...He's not SUPPOSED to be! And the issue here is some people just not *getting* Tool. Because Tool aren't about highly technically demanding riffs and soloing. The main merit in Tool lies in the rhythm, the rhythmic patterning, the polyrhythmic arrangements and the sound layering in general. And Adam Jones fulfils the role that he's MEANT to fill excellently - just as good as most others could be expected to. He's a good player. Definitely not amazing, but not at all bad. And a whole lot better than half the rubbish out there.

And if people call him bad because they don't like "his" tone, that's equally unusual, because his parts sound precisely as they're supposed to (and the mode of amplifying ensures that): that's how Tool are meant to sound - it's the target. Jones has moulded a particular style that is Tool. And anyhow, with all the funds they have to spend on studio production, they could make it sound however they wanted to, regardless of Jones' "limitations". There's a reason it sounds how it does, and it sure *ain't* because Jones is a bad player.

And finally, if people say he's bad because he supposedly screws up at live performances, then that's not generally the case. The whole band are usually tight as anything, at least when I've seen them.

More than anything else, hating and casting aspersions upon Jones' guitar-playing is really just an extension of the anti-Tool bandwaggon.

sleepy jack · 01-15-2007, 02:26 PM

Elliott Smith, seriously, hes one sick guitar player. In fact he can write music really well, if you listen to Home To Oblivion by Christopher O'Riley you'll see that. But back to his guitar playing, Memory Lane? I Don't Think I'm Ever Going To Figure It Out? I rest my case.

Kurt_Cobain · 01-15-2007, 02:32 PM

John 5 is pretty amazing. With Manson, he was averege rock, but 'Songs for Sanity' was a mad album, listen to 'Damaged' blows my mind.
And Jack Johnson plays some cool acoustic.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-15-2007, 02:40 PM

Eddie Hazel from Funkadelic

Listen to Maggot Brain & you`ll see why

Sneer · 01-15-2007, 03:19 PM

i've always liked tom verlaine's guitar playing, he's no master of the instrument, just something about it.

boo boo · 01-15-2007, 04:45 PM

Agreed on Eddie Hazel.

Some other worthy mentions.

Steve Hackett
Mick Ronson
Adrian Belew
Zoot Horn Rollo
Robert Randolph
D. Boon
Larry LaLonde
Gary Green
Mike Einziger
Joe Walsh
Vernon Reid
Martin Barre
Trey Anastasio
Lindsey Buckingham
Alex Lifeson
Snakefinger
Jorma Kaukonen
Kevin Shields

Kurt_Cobain · 01-15-2007, 04:47 PM

Joe Walsh is amazing boo boo, they did a live dvd called....'Gotta Move' I think..he's amazing live!

Muzak · 01-15-2007, 07:30 PM

Muhammad from Necrophagist is an amazing guitarist but most don't know about the band so he gets overlooked.

Strummer521 · 01-15-2007, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill

Memory Lane? I Don't Think I'm Ever Going To Figure It Out? I rest my case.

Not to mention "Angeles", "Tomorrow Tomorrow" and "Southern Belle" Plus he's one of the best arrangers ever when it comes to Singer/Songwriter's

Levithan · 01-15-2007, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzak

Muhammad from Necrophagist is an amazing guitarist but most don't know about the band so he gets overlooked.

Yeah, would have to agree with you there. The riff to stabwound is fantastic

01-15-2007, 02:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	Most Underrated and Overlooked Guitarists I thought this might be an interesting topic to explore. Either that, or nobody'll give a damn enough to contribute, but it interests me anyway, and hopefully others will view it with a similar keenness. Basically, the idea is to think of some of the most either overlooked, or just plain underrated rock/metal guitar players out there. I thought I'd start this one up with none other than Tool's Adam Jones - mostly because the reasons often given for treating him with disdain tend to irk me, either out of sheer redundancy, or otherwise just general lameness - also because it gives me a chance to rant! For starters, your typical popular rock act seldom has particularly demanding guitar parts. What Adam Jones does, while not being hugely demanding in a technical sense, is a fair deal more complex and sophisticated than what you find with at least 70% of most standard bands out there - so why he's singled out among other guitar players who don't tend to play demanding parts is beyond me. But more importantly... while it is true that Adam Jones is not some guitar virtuoso who does things that make you stop and go "holy f'n WOW, that's IMPOSSIBLE!"... while he's no Hanneman or King, or Iommi or Rhoades, or Angus Young or whatever... the thing is... ...He's not SUPPOSED to be! And the issue here is some people just not getting Tool. Because Tool aren't about highly technically demanding riffs and soloing. The main merit in Tool lies in the rhythm, the rhythmic patterning, the polyrhythmic arrangements and the sound layering in general. And Adam Jones fulfils the role that he's MEANT to fill excellently - just as good as most others could be expected to. He's a good player. Definitely not amazing, but not at all bad. And a whole lot better than half the rubbish out there. And if people call him bad because they don't like "his" tone, that's equally unusual, because his parts sound precisely as they're supposed to (and the mode of amplifying ensures that): that's how Tool are meant to sound - it's the target. Jones has moulded a particular style that is Tool. And anyhow, with all the funds they have to spend on studio production, they could make it sound however they wanted to, regardless of Jones' "limitations". There's a reason it sounds how it does, and it sure ain't because Jones is a bad player. And finally, if people say he's bad because he supposedly screws up at live performances, then that's not generally the case. The whole band are usually tight as anything, at least when I've seen them. More than anything else, hating and casting aspersions upon Jones' guitar-playing is really just an extension of the anti-Tool bandwaggon.

01-15-2007, 02:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kurt_Cobain Alan Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In bed, with Cheryl Tweedy Posts: 275	John 5 is pretty amazing. With Manson, he was averege rock, but 'Songs for Sanity' was a mad album, listen to 'Damaged' blows my mind. And Jack Johnson plays some cool acoustic. __________________ http://kungfucrazy.forum-motion.com/

01-15-2007, 02:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Eddie Hazel from Funkadelic Listen to Maggot Brain & you`ll see why __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

01-15-2007, 03:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	i've always liked tom verlaine's guitar playing, he's no master of the instrument, just something about it. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-15-2007, 04:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kurt_Cobain Alan Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In bed, with Cheryl Tweedy Posts: 275	Joe Walsh is amazing boo boo, they did a live dvd called....'Gotta Move' I think..he's amazing live! __________________ http://kungfucrazy.forum-motion.com/

01-15-2007, 07:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Muzak Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,050	Muhammad from Necrophagist is an amazing guitarist but most don't know about the band so he gets overlooked.