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Intelligent design seems stupid to me because, sure, we can see and think, but would an intelligent being really have made us so stupid and weak? C'mon now.

Trauma

The Unfan, you have some good theories, but you really can't "prove" that God is anything at all.

The fact of the matter is that they either exist or not, and beyond that, every idea used in your logic, let alone the words themselves could all be warped creations of some reality that lies outside of our lives manufactured by this entity.

As long as you're in a cage, you can never really know your captor; as long as the laws and boundaries of this world apply to you, there is no possible way you could begin to define what limits apply to something in a different setting, let alone one that you haven't explored, seen, heard of, or conceived.

But hell, you sure could give this aforementioned diety a run for their money in semantics.

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The Unfan

Thats sort of what happens when God isn't anything at all.

I would have never guessed that.
The English language was created by humans. Research some history.

I can define the limits of both God and (a) god. In fact, my last post was dedicated to just that. Please read it before posting back with your nonsense.

If those different settings are based on illogical fantasy based ideas than you're correct. However, the writer of said piece of fiction can define those traits. If those said settings are realistically plausible than logic, rationale, and fact can define them just fine. The human mind is capable of functioning with rationality, knowledge, and common sense and thus can reason out that setting.

Yeah, that happens when you're a god twice.

Trauma

First off, stop being a facetious, semi-cynical asshole.

If you had taken any time to read my post, I said you can't define the limits of a diety, because in the boundaries of humanity, there are certain factors pertaining to such beings that can't be explored.

No matter how much you deny any possibility of a god, you can never really know, reality prevents you from fully researching the topic, and it very well could be a god that refuses to be discovered by humanity at all.
It could do this with any creations previously given to man and taken for granted: free will, intelligent thought, externalized sense, or physical limitations.

Whatever ethic you propose to deny the existence of a diety might conflict with laws and boundaries that are present in a seperate medium where reality is actually present, and that diety lives, or functions by (if not alive).


Being a human, you do not know if the human mind is capable of functioning with rationality, knowledge, and common sense.

Since your opinion is biased based on limited perception and your spectrum of thought is entirely subject to the creation of any diety in the first place, this argument is flawed.

Twice on one definition and once on another, out of four definitions, makes you three-fourths of a god.

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The Unfan

...oojay?

Trauma

Don't you fucking compare me to that closed-minded, cynical, couch potato, right wing conservative, no sex acquiring asshole.

Edit: Also, if I was, the only thing said would be, "There is a God, He is great, and I can kill you if you disagree."

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The Unfan

Other than I actually explored those factors with my post. Its like the bullet hit your foot in slow motion.

No it doesn't. Science exists for a reason. We can come up with theories and test them. Scientists have yet to simulate intelligent design and have yet to find anything that supports the claim. Alternatively they haven't disproven it yet so you're still in the clear.
Invisible pink unicorn?

See my argument about the fairy tale world. I'm not sure what kind of Mike Mignola ass universe this proposed deity lives in but its not realistic.

The Unfan

Holy **** it's our deity! I was wrong!

enemyat_thesix

The moment you "prove" God his existence becomes irrelevant; he ceases to be. If God can be proved--that is, explained and defined by man's sciences and technology--he is not God.

Religion is based on faith, pure and simple. You either believe in it, or you don't. It is not a science; it is not based on facts.

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Trauma

To The Unfan, you're not understanding what I'm saying, and you're being a douchebag.

That's not necessarily true, just because you find a person in hide and go seek doesn't mean the game's over.

Also, religion can be whatever people choose to believe in order for them to more easily cope with the reality of their lives.

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