Someone please explain the appeal of RATM? (singer, techno, bass)

jackhammer · 06-04-2007, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seltzer

Wait... are you saying Nile is a thrash metal band?

Anyway, Rage is a great band. Nice riffery, guitar effects can get annoying, awesome basslines, nice funky drumming and pure rage.

No NILE are just awful one of the worst bands I've ever heard and iv'e seen EXTREME NOISE TERROR live on a few occasions! Ok NILE are GRINDCORE? I hate labels anyway-let's just call them crap!

~~The Unfan~~ · 06-04-2007, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer

No NILE are just awful one of the worst bands I've ever heard and iv'e seen EXTREME NOISE TERROR live on a few occasions!

Lucky bastard!

Quote:

Ok NILE are GRINDCORE?

Death metal.

Inuzuka Skysword · 06-04-2007, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer

Ok NILE are GRINDCORE?

I don't understand how someone could even think they are Grindcore.

jackhammer · 06-05-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

I don't understand how someone could even think they are Grindcore.

Because there sound is closer to say NAPALM DEATH or CARCASS than to say OBITUARY. Does it really matter what genre they are? I always hated all those little sub genres when I was a wee metal head, I hate them even more now I'm twenty years older!

Seltzer · 06-06-2007, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer

No NILE are just awful one of the worst bands I've ever heard and iv'e seen EXTREME NOISE TERROR live on a few occasions! Ok NILE are GRINDCORE? I hate labels anyway-let's just call them crap!

Get back to me on that when you're a bit more experienced with death metal. You may think differently.

jackhammer · 06-06-2007, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seltzer

Get back to me on that when you're a bit more experienced with death metal. You may think differently.

No I can't be bothered. I was listening to death metal before you were born-DEATH-SCREAM BLOODY GORE (1987), and the genre has'nt really changed in 20 years, a lot of ****e, a lot of indifferent bands and the odd half decent band rising out of the mire. NILE are doing NOTHING different to what the UK hardcore scene circa 1988 was doing except they have long hair and growl about non political/social subjects. It has nothing to do with their actual sound, but it's just not original. This sort of sound was beong banged out years ago-ENT/GENITAL DEFORMITIES/CEREBRAL FIX/BOLTHROWER/NAPALM DEATH/UNSEEN TERROR etc etc.

Seltzer · 06-06-2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer

No I can't be bothered. I was listening to death metal before you were born-DEATH-SCREAM BLOODY GORE (1987), and the genre has'nt really changed in 20 years, a lot of ****e, a lot of indifferent bands and the odd half decent band rising out of the mire. NILE are doing NOTHING different to what the UK hardcore scene circa 1988 was doing except they have long hair and growl about non political/social subjects. It has nothing to do with their actual sound, but it's just not original. This sort of sound was beong banged out years ago-ENT/GENITAL DEFORMITIES/CEREBRAL FIX/BOLTHROWER/NAPALM DEATH/UNSEEN TERROR etc etc.

Well, then remain ignorant. It's all very well that you've listened to metal before a lot of people, but that causes bias. You might know about old DM but you don't know about new. If death metal hasn't changed its sound, why would old DM loyalists exist?

Nile is quite different to most death metal bands lyrically like you said. But their sound is different too... They're obsessed with Egyptian things and it shows - Egyptian scales, ambience, vocals etc... Also, their method of using dual vocals is quite uncommon. I don't know how you can say Nile is not at all original.

Check out Karl Sander's solo stuff which borders on ambient and isn't metal at all - then you'll understand why Nile sounds different to other death metal bands.

My main problem with Nile is that they get repetitive, but they are good otherwise.