Heavy Metal Causes Violence (alternative, cd, genre, album, neil young)

Sparky · 08-08-2007, 02:48 PM

haha this is great boo boo

"how much money do you make peddling this crap mr.zappa?

millions of dollars mr, novak, millions!"

~~i get high sometimes~~ · 08-08-2007, 03:18 PM

violent films, tv shows, and music undoubtedly have an impact on violence in the real world. These things desensitize people from a young age and devalue human life. Therefore, children grow up not recognizing the extreme that taking someones one life or hurting them badly is. They don't realize that it has a real world effect. Well, it isn't that they dont realize it, its just that the effect that it has is not shocking anymore. We've become accustomed to hearing about murder and abuse so we don't think twice about it. This most likely explains why Voice_of_the_Soul121301 thinks that the torture of children en masse is natural. And that thier brutal deaths are inevitable, and justifiable as long as it benefits him.

maybe it seems like i was taking a cheap shot here, but i type my entire reply to this thread and realized how relevant that is. I see Voice of the Soul opine about nothing other than violent death/black/whatever-the f*ck you want to call it metal music, and find that his personal philosophies are almost certainly derived from this crap. Devaluing of human life, voice is a good example I think.

But, it is art and it shouldn't be censored.

sleepy jack · 08-08-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

This is an awesome video of Frank Zappas guest appearance on Crossfire in 86, debating music censorship. I think it's relevant. Enjoy.

Youtube - Frank Zappa on Crossfire

EDIT: Take note of the conservative douchebag blaming rock music for incest.

Levi posted that awhile ago, it was great. What you wanna spank me here? Frank Zappa<3333

sleepy jack · 08-08-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

haha this is great boo boo

"how much money do you make peddling this crap mr.zappa?

millions of dollars mr, novak, millions!"

this stuff* mr lofton*

You oughta get out more.

MHDTV · 08-08-2007, 07:21 PM

Lofton=Idiot.

boo boo · 08-08-2007, 07:41 PM

Yeah, he mispronounced "Mothers of Invention" as "Mothers of the Invention". What a n00b.

Seltzer · 08-08-2007, 07:51 PM

If anyone gets trampled in a concert, it is most likely caused by an international band being offered a crappy shabby small venue when they deserve better.

Son of JayJamJah · 08-08-2007, 08:07 PM

Music doesn't hurt people, I do.

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 · 08-09-2007, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by i get high sometimes

violent films, tv shows, and music undoubtedly have an impact on violence in the real world. These things desensitize people from a young age and devalue human life. Therefore, children grow up not recognizing the extreme that taking someones one life or hurting them badly is. They don't realize that it has a real world effect. Well, it isn't that they dont realize it, its just that the effect that it has is not shocking anymore. We've become accustomed to hearing about murder and abuse so we don't think twice about it. This most likely explains why Voice_of_the_Soul121301 thinks that the torture of children en masse is natural. And that thier brutal deaths are inevitable, and justifiable as long as it benefits him.

maybe it seems like i was taking a cheap shot here, but i type my entire reply to this thread and realized how relevant that is. I see Voice of the Soul opine about nothing other than violent death/black/whatever-the f*ck you want to call it metal music, and find that his personal philosophies are almost certainly derived from this crap. Devaluing of human life, voice is a good example I think.

But, it is art and it shouldn't be censored.

Firstly, I didn't start listening to music until about 8th grade. and even then, it was all dumbed-down ****. The most metal-y thing I was listening to was Disturbed, and no way does Disturbed instigate violence.

Secondly, I don't derive my philosophies on life from music, metal or otherwise. I THINK; You're alone alot like me, and you think.

Y'know, I'm actually getting sick of arguing with either you or that Crow-dude who I guess is Ethan on this board (saw the name in some places). All it is is just spam. So I'll just leave it with this; Video Games, Television, and any other form of media, as far as children are concerned, I will admit do have an influence, but in this case they are still not to blame. Kids have little knowledge of free will at this time, and they rely so much on their parents. So if their parents let their kids watch violent movies or play violent games or listen to the violent metal music of today, and those kids turn into another Otaku killer or another Virginia Tech massacrer, it's their fault.

jshpik1 · 08-09-2007, 11:17 AM

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Music doesn't hurt people, I do.

Haha awesome saying, I'm going to remember that one.

08-08-2007, 07:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
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08-08-2007, 03:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
~~i get high sometimes~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 240	violent films, tv shows, and music undoubtedly have an impact on violence in the real world. These things desensitize people from a young age and devalue human life. Therefore, children grow up not recognizing the extreme that taking someones one life or hurting them badly is. They don't realize that it has a real world effect. Well, it isn't that they dont realize it, its just that the effect that it has is not shocking anymore. We've become accustomed to hearing about murder and abuse so we don't think twice about it. This most likely explains why Voice_of_the_Soul121301 thinks that the torture of children en masse is natural. And that thier brutal deaths are inevitable, and justifiable as long as it benefits him. maybe it seems like i was taking a cheap shot here, but i type my entire reply to this thread and realized how relevant that is. I see Voice of the Soul opine about nothing other than violent death/black/whatever-the f*ck you want to call it metal music, and find that his personal philosophies are almost certainly derived from this crap. Devaluing of human life, voice is a good example I think. But, it is art and it shouldn't be censored.

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Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Music doesn't hurt people, I do.