How Much Do You Hate Dream Theater? (metal, rock, albums)

Wayfarer · 10-12-2007, 05:20 PM

Well DT fails on both counts.

Inuzuka Skysword · 10-13-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Well DT fails on both counts.

Again you can't say they fail. John Petrucci easily has to be ONE of the greatest guitarists ever. Mike Portnoy is a good drummer, though not really near the best. John Myung is a crazy bass player.

You are just using doublethink to shove off every possibility that they are good.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-13-2007, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

Again you can't say they fail. John Petrucci easily has to be ONE of the greatest guitarists ever. Mike Portnoy is a good drummer, though not really near the best. John Myung is a crazy bass player.

Well you can because not everybody thinks technically gifted = good.

I certainly don't think it does.

anticipation · 10-13-2007, 09:45 AM

how much do i hate dream theater?
apparently, from the general loathing displayed towards them,
not enough.

Seltzer · 10-13-2007, 02:39 PM

Regardless of what I think of Dream Theater, John Myung is a wonderful bassist. It goes without saying that he is technically insane, but he doesn't overplay at all. He has great feel and melodic sense... look up Solar Groove on youtube.

Wayfarer · 10-13-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

Again you can't say they fail. John Petrucci easily has to be ONE of the greatest guitarists ever. Mike Portnoy is a good drummer, though not really near the best. John Myung is a crazy bass player.

You are just using doublethink to shove off every possibility that they are good.

I can say they fail because, I know this may be difficult for you to comprehend, but your opinion...is not any kind of objective truth! =O

Being technically proficient does not make you a good musician, as far as I'm concerned. I'd much rather listen to, say, Kurt Cobain play guitar than listen to John Petrucci play guitar. John's obviously very technically skilled, but he's boring to listen to. I have yet to hear one Dream Theater song that was memorable at all (and I have listened to three or four of their albums, and watched a few videos on YouTube).

So, in short:

- Technical proficiency does not make you a good musician.
- A band's technical proficiency does not automatically make them enjoyable to watch.

As a result...

Dream Theater fails on both counts.

boo boo · 10-13-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

I've stated several time I'm not anymore.

So you went from big prog fan to non prog fan in less than a month?

ProggyMan · 10-13-2007, 07:29 PM

I still like prog a lot, I just like rap and folk more.

Carm.bono · 10-16-2007, 09:51 AM

Okay Dream Theatre is a touchy group, their stuff can be debated at times as less metal more rock or metal orchestra, a personal favourite of mine is "Change of Seasons" I Think that is such a good song like the guys playing the instruments are good, like really good and they should be deemed brilliant for thinking of a song that long and good. It all depends on what you persoanlly like...This thread got my attention because it asked, "How Much Do You Hate Dream Theatre?" You can't ask a bunch of people how much they hate something you have to ask what do you think of Dream Theatre? But personally i was apaulled when i saw that 41.5 or w.e percent thought they were not all that good. You gotta admit they must have some talent if they were playing alongside Megadeth, Dillinger Escape plan, Fear Factory and other bands of great reputation (well maybe megadeth does not have such a great rep. but still...) you understand?

Carm.bono · 10-16-2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

I can say they fail because, I know this may be difficult for you to comprehend, but your opinion...is not any kind of objective truth! =O

Being technically proficient does not make you a good musician, as far as I'm concerned. I'd much rather listen to, say, Kurt Cobain play guitar than listen to John Petrucci play guitar. John's obviously very technically skilled, but he's boring to listen to. I have yet to hear one Dream Theater song that was memorable at all (and I have listened to three or four of their albums, and watched a few videos on YouTube).

So, in short:

- Technical proficiency does not make you a good musician.
- A band's technical proficiency does not automatically make them enjoyable to watch.

As a result...

Dream Theater fails on both counts.

LOL!!! Buddy are you joking? Are you really going to pull the KC special? Like come on they have been gone for how long now? and the only reason every one loves Kurt so much is because he died at the peak of his career i guarentee if he were still around he would end up just like elvis or some of the great guitarists that were good but after time just lose teh spark...Like don't be ripping on the guy cause he's got good taste in talent

View Poll Results: How much do you hate DT?
Very Much!	15	25.86%
A lot!	3	5.17%
A little	5	8.62%
Indifferent	11	18.97%
I like them	24	41.38%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

10-13-2007, 02:39 PM	#65 (permalink)
Seltzer Fish in the percolator! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hobbit Land NZ Posts: 2,870	Regardless of what I think of Dream Theater, John Myung is a wonderful bassist. It goes without saying that he is technically insane, but he doesn't overplay at all. He has great feel and melodic sense... look up Solar Groove on youtube. __________________ In the Court of King Crimson \| Last.fm \| RYM

10-16-2007, 09:51 AM	#69 (permalink)
Carm.bono Groupie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dunnville, the middle of no where Posts: 20	I believe they are quite good...Just an opinion Okay Dream Theatre is a touchy group, their stuff can be debated at times as less metal more rock or metal orchestra, a personal favourite of mine is "Change of Seasons" I Think that is such a good song like the guys playing the instruments are good, like really good and they should be deemed brilliant for thinking of a song that long and good. It all depends on what you persoanlly like...This thread got my attention because it asked, "How Much Do You Hate Dream Theatre?" You can't ask a bunch of people how much they hate something you have to ask what do you think of Dream Theatre? But personally i was apaulled when i saw that 41.5 or w.e percent thought they were not all that good. You gotta admit they must have some talent if they were playing alongside Megadeth, Dillinger Escape plan, Fear Factory and other bands of great reputation (well maybe megadeth does not have such a great rep. but still...) you understand?

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