N*S*G

Nice, any other riffs?

Dr_Rez

To answer your question, After Hillel died they had few guitarists which they didnt like, and then by the time mothers milk came around, Frusciante was there.. he was only 19 at the time, yet amazingly talented. Then they had him till he quit after BSSM, in which they went to Navarro, then back to JF for Californication.


And MOST if not all have col riffs from him, youl have to be more specific. And listen to I could have Lied on BSSM has even better solo than Dani California. (not that thats even close to being his best)

Edit: Listen to Easily on Californication, possily his best solo ever. Theres 5 separtly recorded uitar parts all being played at once, and its sounds AMAZING.

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N*S*G

I was basically thinking of learning some of his songs so I can pick up some of his style. And when is the solo in Easily? Is it that bout of noise at the end?

Seltzer

I'm not saying I like the genre-tag of alt. rock, because I don't. But seeing as we have no choice here as to whether there is an alternative section, we have to use it. And I've justified why I think RHCP could be classified as an alt. rock band.

Yes, alternative rock is a very broad category. That's why I sort my modern rock (i.e. not classic rock) into grunge, stoner, funk, ska, singer/songwriter, pop rock etc... and chuck the rest in alternative. There are certain bands that can't be described in many other ways other than 'alternative rock', i.e. Smashing Pumpkins. And there are bands that can be justified as being alternative rock, even though they could fit in other categories, i.e. RHCP.

You're absolutely right. Mainstream doesn't have a definable sound... it's an adjective relating to how popular something is. And as Boo Boo explained, RHCP can be mainstream, yet have an alternative rock sound.

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jackhammer

I love it when people argue about genre tags. ROFL.

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ProggyMan

Alternative doesn't have a meaning since all the genre's it's supposed to be a part of can also be mainstream.

Wayfarer

"Alternative" and "mainstream" are not antithetical - "underground" and "mainstream" are.

Dr_Rez

According to the band the are AltRock. End of story.

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Merkaba

Alternative Rock is such an arsehole term to work with I've decided, it's as ambiguous as the night is black. To me alternative rock is just an all encompasing title of artists they aren't blatantly definable.

Nickelback, Tool, RHCP, RATM, Oasis, The Killers, Radiohead, Nirvana...

Pop rock is also alt-rock, rap rock is also alt rock, hard rock is also alt rock, grungey music is also alt rock. Even Britpop isn't safe, if Oasis is even remotely rocky (which they are) then they have, at some point in time, been called alt rock.

I find this is generally fueled by music stores who don't want to set up 5000 different genre stands so they'll just lump anything and everything together under some sort of title.

It just grinds you down.

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Seltzer

I give up here... I don't think you're reading my posts. Above I acknowledge that alt. rock can be mainstream... the idea being that 'alt.rock' describes a sound which isn't likely to be favoured in the mainstream.

I hate the term alt. rock unless it's being used to describe bands like At the Drive-In, Modest Mouse, Cursive etc... Even then, I don't particularly like the term.

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