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Clownbaby 12-20-2007 05:46 PM

Try some post-metal like Isis, Pelican, or Neurosis and start with listening to Pelican's song "City Of Labels"

You might also like Dream Theater, check them out...great guitarists and the guy always sings with clean prog vocals

Damijsa 12-21-2007 10:10 AM

some Great Metal Bands huh..
well I think I can help
try Vanden Plas- awesomeband with terrific vocals.
Pagans Mind is good too
Symphony X
Icarus Witch
Circus Maximus
Beautiful Sin --excellent female vocalist
Communic
Ghost Machinery
Then again you cant go wrong with some old school Metal either :Testament , Metal church , Anthrax, Suicidal tendencies, Death angel, Savatage, & Ozzy

Leasing-Vertrag 12-21-2007 01:25 PM

Overload! Lots of things to look into here, I may need a little time to produce any kind of response about what I think about the music you so kindly suggested for me. Many thanks for the helpful advice.

I might also add, while I am generally ignorant of music, I don't live in a cave.....I have heard of Ozzy, Metallica, Iron Maiden, and Rob Zombie. :D

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 12-22-2007 11:09 AM

I know you said you hate bands with a screamer, but you've just gotta give Death a try. Guitar playing and composition will make you cream your pants.

Other bands to check out;
White Zombie (When Rob Zombie didn't suck)
Dream Evil
Corrosion of Conformity
Arcturus (Symphonic metal mostly)
Lacuna Coil (More nu-metal than Heavy metal, but still worth checking out)
Anthrax

Leasing-Vertrag 12-22-2007 02:32 PM

Still looking in to most of the previous suggestions, and I usually need to hear music more than once to get a definitive opinion of it one way or the other.


To JackHammer:

Kings X was also fairly good, but somehow wasn't very exciting. Ironically, the album of theirs I managed to get a hold of ended up not being the one suggested, but I'm still looking.

I have a little trouble believing Voivod made that album over 20 years ago.....I am not especially educated in the history of music or the evolution of particular genres, but I think even I can accurately gauge that they were WAY way ahead of their time. I'm not through with the album yet, and I can't say it appeals to me greatly, but its certainly unique. I pick something new up from a track every time I hear it, certain little subtleties that seem to get lost if you aren't listening carefully (the tempo seems to alternate almost sporadically on some tracks, and sometimes there is no sense of connection between what the drummer/guitarists/vocalist are doing). Their song titles are also a little bizarre, except for Batman, which was my favorite track thus far, more so for humor value than anything else.



To Clownbaby:

I did not find the City of Labels by Pelican, but I did find an album called City of Echoes, which I am now listening to, and predict I will like very much.

I've heard Dream Theater in the past, but never really got into them. Giving them a second listen since I already had a few of their albums.



To Damijsa:

Vanden Plas, wow. Great stuff, amassing as much of it as I can find, though the lead singer's accent is a bit comical at times.

Pagan mind is also very promising, its rare I like music upon first hearing it, but the first song I heard of theirs was exceptional.

Symphony X, also seems very promising, but thats as far as I've gotten with your suggestions so far. Thanks for the incredible advice.

The bands you recommended seem to have similar elements/styles, is that a particular genre?


To Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01:

I'll check out Death, and I should correct myself again, I don't dislike all screaming. It depends on how its done really, but I'm less prone to that kind of singing.

Lacuna Coil is also one of my favorite bands, though thats mostly due to Scabbia's vocal work, and not the horrible guitar playing they have.

I'm also familiar with White Zombie, but to be honest, heathen that I am, I preferred Rob Zombie to most of it.





To no one in particular:

A friend of mine suggested Yngwie Malmsteen, and to be honest I wasn't all that impressed. I liked a few of his songs, but the quality of the tracks were always horrible and fuzzy. It could just be my stupidity on being unable to find decent copies of those songs though. I've never been a huge fan of solo guitarists though, and while I do like a few songs from that crowd (Vai, Satriani, Batio, Beck, Johnson, etc), it usually seems a little too fast or complex for my taste. Its like the overcompensation in some of the compositions goes a little over the top, and while I can appreciate how technically demanding playing like that is, I prefer someone who is more melodic while capable of playing quickly, but doesn't overdo it and also has a good sense of creativity.

jackhammer 12-22-2007 03:06 PM

I hope you keep posting Leasing. You have listen to reccomendations and posted some interesting anaylsis on what you have heard. You could be an asset to these forums. Keep it up!

under 12-22-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clownbaby (Post 423987)
Try some post-metal like Isis, Pelican, or Neurosis and start with listening to Pelican's song "City Of Labels"

You might also like Dream Theater, check them out...great guitarists and the guy always sings with clean prog vocals

John Petrucci FTW!

Seltzer 12-22-2007 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leasing-Vertrag (Post 424293)
To Clownbaby:

I did not find the City of Labels by Pelican, but I did find an album called City of Echoes, which I am now listening to, and predict I will like very much.

Yep, it's City of Echoes. If you like that, I'd check out their older stuff, particularly The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon The Thaw. I've recommended it in the post-rock thread too. Most Pelican fans thought City of Echoes was a disappointment compared to previous efforts, and so did I.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Leasing-Vertrag
To Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01:

I'll check out Death, and I should correct myself again, I don't dislike all screaming. It depends on how its done really, but I'm less prone to that kind of singing.

My brother doesn't like those vocals and I'm getting him into Death now. I'd start with their last album.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 424305)
How 'bout alternative metal? Tool, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Faith No More. Heard much of that? Might be worth looking into if you haven't. Some "stoner rock/metal" is awesome as well. Kyuss, Fu Manchu, Orange Goblin, Electric Wizard, Sleep, Nebula. Check 'em out.

Indeed. I like some stoner rock - and to throw off any misconceptions, no you do not have to be high to enjoy it. I imagine it helps though.

Dr_Rez 12-24-2007 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 423905)
Listen to Porcupine Tree. Heavy in places, ambient in others and technical in others. Also try:

SACRILEGE-TURN BACK TRILOBITE
AMPLIFIER-S/T

I will come back with plenty more.

PT is incredible! There best in my opinion is Fear of a Blanket and my personal favorite Voyage 34.

djchameleon 12-24-2007 07:13 PM

You should also delve into symphonic metal and give that a try...

Some suggestions of symphonic metal bands were mentioned earlier but here are a few more
NightWish
Within Temptation
Katatonia
Leaves' eyes
Xandria


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