New music. Does it exite like it did back in the day? (lyrics, metal)

riseagainstrocks · 01-21-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by awriterslastresort

your replies bore me...you've said Cynic over and over in every reply i think thats why people have been making it a huge argument.

Holy ****, you do win the retard of the board award. The arguement was about CYNIC. So naturally, I'd talk about CYNIC in the reply.

~~under~~ · 01-21-2008, 11:56 AM

right. apparently i've overlooked this a little bit, because i was coming to edit my reply once i finished reading everyones replies.

sorry about that RAR. that was bad on my part...

Inuzuka Skysword · 01-21-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

Holy ****, you do win the retard of the board award. The arguement was about CYNIC. So naturally, I'd talk about CYNIC in the reply.

lol. Going in sig.

Rainard Jalen · 01-21-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

Why is taste the way you grade music? I mean, hell, tell me who Cynic ripped off to be unoriginal because I can't find it. Since music is an art I am going to grade it in an artsy way because that is obviously how you grade art, is it not? I mean I am not against taste at all and taste is a gift because without it we would not "get into" certain genres, but you cross the line when you say music is bad because you don't like to listen to it at the time. See, what if you were to like Cynic later in your life. I mean you would love them, but because of what you said earlier in your life you cannot say they are good. See the problem with grading by taste? It changes by the mood. Now if you look at the originality of a band, then you will be able to appreciate music much more.

But that's the whole point. There's no objective criteria for "grading art". If no common ground can be agreed upon, it's effectively meaningless. It's all down to personal taste and interpretation at the end of the day. Take a set of lyrics. To one person, it may be profound - to another, pretentious. Or a melody: to one person exciting, to another, saccharine and sickly. Or a riff: to one person, complex and deep; to another, wooden, plastic, over-calculated, soulless. You can never say that one piece of art is better than another, except going by one's own personal criteria. Which is no more valid than anybody else's.

One of the things you mentioned was originality. To me, originality to a degree is important, yes. In that way, my own personal criteria matches yours. A lot of people don't place any importance in that sort of thing, though.

To riseagainstrocks: I had assumed you were ridiculing, marginalizing and scorning a number of other genres. If not, then my bad. Sorry.

pheurton · 01-23-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

I realize that liking or disliking a certain band is entirely subjective. I said it before and I'll say it again, if you dislike something I do (in this specific case, Cynic), I won't be offended or angry. However when the reason you give is something as trite as "their bland metal fusion". Then I take issue.

Exactly why I said 'bland metal fusion' when I came across

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

lol. Keep telling yourself that some guy "singing his heart out" with an acoustic guitar is anything more than pathetic/fit for Starbucks

I'm in no wrong here.

riseagainstrocks · 01-23-2008, 01:42 PM

Wow, that's hilarious. Definitely not me, people who've been here long enough know what I look like.

Plus his says wizardofgore, mine is wizardovgore.

And I really don't know where you're going with this.

right-track · 01-23-2008, 01:46 PM

OMG...WOW!

^American moment.

Both Aim and MSN match exactly...LOfuckinL!

Not nice pheurton.

Funny though.

NoiseNotMusic · 01-23-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

Wow, that's hilarious. Definitely not me, people who've been here long enough know what I look like.

Plus his says wizardofgore, mine is wizardovgore.

And I really don't know where you're going with this.

lol you can't grow that kinda beard anyway lawl

sleepy jack · 01-23-2008, 06:13 PM

jackhammer · 01-23-2008, 06:17 PM

^^^
I do not match any of those criteria. Thank fuck!

01-23-2008, 01:42 PM	#86 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	Wow, that's hilarious. Definitely not me, people who've been here long enough know what I look like. Plus his says wizardofgore, mine is wizardovgore. And I really don't know where you're going with this. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

01-23-2008, 06:17 PM	#90 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	^^^ I do not match any of those criteria. Thank fuck! __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-21-2008, 11:56 AM	#82 (permalink)
~~under~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,056	right. apparently i've overlooked this a little bit, because i was coming to edit my reply once i finished reading everyones replies. sorry about that RAR. that was bad on my part...

01-23-2008, 01:46 PM	#87 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	OMG...WOW! ^American moment. Both Aim and MSN match exactly...LOfuckinL! Not nice pheurton. Funny though.