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Merkaba 11-01-2005 12:40 PM

No your grandfather had no choice.

bungalow 11-01-2005 12:42 PM

im not trying to argue w/ you but....

neither did stalin

Merkaba 11-01-2005 12:46 PM

Oh yes you can make that point. But my argument about Hitler only. I actually don't think it was right to group the two together for they are contrasting. Boo boo will have to explain Stalin

bungalow 11-01-2005 12:48 PM

so boo boo.....

bungalow 11-01-2005 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
THIS IS A THREAD FOR FANS!!!!


hmmm....the following are all posts in this thread

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
The biggest compliment I can pay Nirvana was they were the least awful grunge band.

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets
I hate Nirvana.They are over-rated insanely. Do they even palm mute?

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Originally Posted by Waynegrow
never liked em' the freezing rain warning on my t.v. screen is more ammusing than there music.

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Originally Posted by Are_You_Experienced?
I can't stand Nirvana, nor can I understand the hype surrounding them. Kurt Cobain was a boring guitarist and a horrible vocalist, Krist Novoselic was a boring bassist, and Dave Grohl was a boring drummer. Nothing wrong with simplicity; the song "Heroin" is built around two chords, but it's a fantastic song, and many Dylan and CCR songs only use three or four chords. But Nirvana is simply really, really, excruciatingly boring (which throws out Cobain being a good songwriter, eh?).

I also love how people act like Cobain was Gen X's Bob Dylan, when he wasn't even close to being the best songwriter of the past 20 years.

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Originally Posted by This_isnt_highschool
over-rated...simple

i could go on
I will withdraw some earlier comments considering that I was, at one time a big nirvana fan, but then you get all these 12 year old girls obsessed with them, thinking Kurt is God, buying every shirt that Hot Topic produces of them, and then, in one experience of mine, a girl tried to tell me that Kurt Cobain was an all around better musician and bigger influence on music than....John Lennon!!!!! I realize that this is just an opinion and one that she couldn't back up with facts, but still, it angered me a little

Then, the more I listened to Nirvana, the more bored I became of their music. Also you get all of these conspiracy fanboys who say "Courtney killed Kurt" and these people know nothing on the subject. Kurt killed himself, just cause someone doesnt want to believe it doesnt make it untrue. Everyone needs something to hang onto, and for all these "tortured" nirvana fans it is the fact that Kurt was murdered. At least have some info to back up your claim( i know the evidence so please dont respond with a post straight from www.justiceforkurt.com) Almost every famous, beloved person who has died before their time, has a conspiracy floating around their death. This is all an attempt to console a weary public.

-SlipKnoT- 11-01-2005 06:45 PM

my favorite song by far is smalls like teen spirit

STIGMATA 11-01-2005 09:10 PM

I was a fan of Nirvana for awhile, after Kurts death, it didnt bother me much except to not expect anymore music from them :(, As of now, I like them the same, but sometimes I still hear them too often and it becomes annoying. As for Alice In Chains, there not bad, but not what im into.

Merkaba 11-01-2005 10:23 PM

I like Nirvana for not trying to reinvent themselves once Kurt had passed away. Yes they do get heaps of radio play and its a pity the range of sings is roughly the same list as the poll options above.

boo boo 11-02-2005 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
i think that everyone has opinions, not just evil dictators.....
so if i have an opinion on Kurt Cobain/Nirvana, why not post it in the Official Kurt Cobain/Nirvana thread???????
hmmmmmmmmmm
makes sense to me

Why do you want to express your opinion here?, because you like to start **** with fans?, TROLL!

sleepy jack 11-02-2005 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Why do you want to express your opinion here?, because you like to start **** with fans?, TROLL!

Even if thats true you know he wont admit to it he's just gonna say.

'I wanted to express my opinion on nirvana'.

boo boo 11-02-2005 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
hmmm....the following are all posts in this thread











i could go on
I will withdraw some earlier comments considering that I was, at one time a big nirvana fan, but then you get all these 12 year old girls obsessed with them, thinking Kurt is God, buying every shirt that Hot Topic produces of them, and then, in one experience of mine, a girl tried to tell me that Kurt Cobain was an all around better musician and bigger influence on music than....John Lennon!!!!! I realize that this is just an opinion and one that she couldn't back up with facts, but still, it angered me a little

Then, the more I listened to Nirvana, the more bored I became of their music. Also you get all of these conspiracy fanboys who say "Courtney killed Kurt" and these people know nothing on the subject. Kurt killed himself, just cause someone doesnt want to believe it doesnt make it untrue. Everyone needs something to hang onto, and for all these "tortured" nirvana fans it is the fact that Kurt was murdered. At least have some info to back up your claim( i know the evidence so please dont respond with a post straight from www.justiceforkurt.com) Almost every famous, beloved person who has died before their time, has a conspiracy floating around their death. This is all an attempt to console a weary public.

They all commited the same crime as you, its no excuse, if you got bored with them thats fine, saying you dont like them is one thing, simply dismissing their importance to rock, calling them horrible and bashing their fans calling them idiots is another, and attacking someone for their personality is a lame reason to attack their band, while we are at it lets attack Pink Floyd because Roger Waters is a jerk.

Mephistopheles 11-02-2005 07:07 PM

Nirvana, once one of my favorite bands, a bit overrated but great nonetheless.

My view on Kurt Cobain is a different story, however. Great songwriter but I would assume that I wouldn't want to be his friend. He killed himself, which is reasonable enough for me to lose so much respect for him.

bungalow 11-03-2005 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
They all commited the same crime as you, its no excuse, if you got bored with them thats fine, saying you dont like them is one thing, simply dismissing their importance to rock, calling them horrible and bashing their fans calling them idiots is another, and attacking someone for their personality is a lame reason to attack their band, while we are at it lets attack Pink Floyd because Roger Waters is a jerk.

when did i say their fans were idiots?????? and whose personality did i attack.....saying someone is stupid for killing themselves...isnt bashing their personality....it is stating a fact

and once again why am i not allowed to post an opinion on Nirvana in the Official Nirvana Thread(misfit???????)

sleepy jack 11-03-2005 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
when did i say their fans were idiots?????? and whose personality did i attack.....saying someone is stupid for killing themselves...isnt bashing their personality....it is stating a fact

and once again why am i not allowed to post an opinion on Nirvana in the Official Nirvana Thread(misfit???????)

There is a diffrence between posting an opinion and trying to piss people off.

blackTshirt 11-04-2005 07:33 AM

another example of how people don't have anything to do

Spikey 11-04-2005 09:18 AM

I've listened to Nirvana quite a few times but I think they're overrated.

bungalow 11-04-2005 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk
There is a diffrence between posting an opinion and trying to piss people off.

if my poinion is pissing people off...then there is NO difference...is there?

Merkaba 11-04-2005 01:09 PM

I like Nirvana but I believe they are overated for this reason: Nirvana would not be half as big if it weren't for Kurt. Sure the guy was great but no one else in the band ever gets any recognition, most people couldn't name the other people in the band. Nirvana shouldn't be rated so highly, Kurt should.

I want Nirvana to be rated highly because all the band members are acknowledged for their contribution, not just Kurt. GnR has Slash and Axl, not all the band I know, but more than just one guy. RATM has Tom Morello and Zach.

A band should be big for being a great alround band, not a frontman who literally was "everything" Nirvana stood for. Thats not Nirvana, just kurt with bodyguards.

bungalow 11-04-2005 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba
I like Nirvana but I believe they are overated for this reason: Nirvana would not be half as big if it weren't for Kurt. Sure the guy was great but no one else in the band ever gets any recognition, most people couldn't name the other people in the band. Nirvana shouldn't be rated so highly, Kurt should.

I want Nirvana to be rated highly because all the band members are acknowledged for their contribution, not just Kurt. GnR has Slash and Axl, not all the band I know, but more than just one guy. RATM has Tom Morello and Zach.

A band should be big for being a great alround band, not a frontman who literally was "everything" Nirvana stood for. Thats not Nirvana, just kurt with bodyguards.

ummmm....2 words DAVE GROHL!!!

Merkaba 11-04-2005 02:12 PM

Touche'

Though I don't know many who associate him with Nirvana, more or less the foo's, and especially not before they hum on about Kurt. It is semi disappointing. Even in this thread, out of nearly 600 replies there are only around 20 that mention Dave. Yet theres at least 100 that talk of Kurt.

boo boo 11-04-2005 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
when did i say their fans were idiots?????? and whose personality did i attack.....saying someone is stupid for killing themselves...isnt bashing their personality....it is stating a fact

and once again why am i not allowed to post an opinion on Nirvana in the Official Nirvana Thread(misfit???????)

It isnt a fact that Kurt killed himself.

anticipation 11-04-2005 02:39 PM

^your so "I'm 12 years old and I'm gonna think what I wanna".

Well, that and stupid.

boo boo 11-04-2005 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
if my poinion is pissing people off...then there is NO difference...is there?

Why do you post your opinion on a thread for fans?, obviously not because you want to make friendly conversation.

blackTshirt 11-04-2005 02:50 PM

bungallowbill can you please change your avatar?
it makes it hard to have a mental image of ya since i always take ya by ledzeppelinrulz...... yeah i know

but please?

bungalow 11-04-2005 02:52 PM

this thread is the NIRVANA THREAD>>>>>where...if not here, should i post opinions on nirvana

this is not the "Friendly Conversation" thread....it is the....as i have said before^...NIRVANA THREAD" therefore...i come here to talk about nirvana.......not to have friendly conversation....if the two go hand in hand...good...if not....oh well

bungalow 11-04-2005 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackTshirt
bungallowbill can you please change your avatar?
it makes it hard to have a mental image of ya since i always take ya by ledzeppelinrulz...... yeah i know

but please?

just for you

blackTshirt 11-04-2005 03:24 PM

haha thanks a lot :D i appreciate it
*waiting to see the change*

bungalow 11-04-2005 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blackTshirt
haha thanks a lot :D i appreciate it
*waiting to see the change*

ive gotta find one that is valid....all the ones i find arent valid

boo boo 11-16-2005 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba
Oh yes you can make that point. But my argument about Hitler only. I actually don't think it was right to group the two together for they are contrasting. Boo boo will have to explain Stalin

Christians and most religions believe that death is mankinds punishment for their sins.

boo boo 11-16-2005 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny
^your so "I'm 12 years old and I'm gonna think what I wanna".

Well, that and stupid.

If you disagree with me on something, then please be specific instead of making a pointless insult.

Merkaba 11-16-2005 09:47 PM

So Nirvana eh...

Kurt used to go around town before Nirvana began and he tagged "God is a homo" on many walls. True fact:thumb:

bungalow 11-17-2005 09:19 AM

half of this thread has been off topic, allow me to bring it back



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Originally Posted by Rockafella Skank
I was a big fan back when Kurt was still alive and
things were going strong. However, I stopped listening to him after his death. I don't know exactly why, but now when I listen to the music again it bores me. It just doesn't do it for me anymore. What do you thinm of Nirvana?


Kempson 11-17-2005 09:20 AM

Nirvana always bored me, infact any grunge band did really.

enjoime9 11-17-2005 09:21 AM

I like grunge for its raspyness, but other than that, its nothing to good.

bungalow 11-17-2005 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoime9
I like grunge for its raspyness, but other than that, its nothing to good.

grunge doesnt=raspyness

kurt cobain= raspyness

just cause kurt was in a grunge band doesnt mean all grunge is raspy

for ex.
pearl jam...not raspy
soundgarden
babes in toyland....girl singers....not raspy

mosesandtherubberducky 11-17-2005 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
grunge doesnt=raspyness

kurt cobain= raspyness

just cause kurt was in a grunge band doesnt mean all grunge is raspy

for ex.
pearl jam...not raspy
soundgarden
babes in toyland....girl singers....not raspy


don't forget Alice in chains they weren't that raspy

Merkaba 11-17-2005 12:17 PM

Grunge isn't raspy, it's sluggish and it's great.

pastor of muppets 11-20-2005 05:03 AM

and grungy...

thedude01 11-20-2005 10:35 AM

ok dude listen im a teenager and i probalbly know more music artist,faqs about them and songs then you can research im an origial musician and it makes me made when people like you say crap like that. Yes som kids buy those shirts without knowing who they are but make sure you have you faqs strait.

thedude01 11-20-2005 10:39 AM

Dude you dont get it
 
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Originally Posted by JackJeckel
I love them, but like ^ said, all the little Nirvana bandwagon kids I've seen lately are irritating.

i love nirvana,rock and music in general probably know more about them then you can research.


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