The Official Nirvana/Kurt Cobain Thread (lyrics, member, quote, songs)

boo boo · 05-05-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Loser

Sorry but i think he killed himself. There are no proofs he was murdered. And what the ****? Sorry but everyone can commit suicide even Kurt Cobain. If you feel miserable and sad and you don't want to live anymore you do it anyway if you have the courage. I believe the cops if they say he killed himself.
Ok courtney could have done it. But do you have any proof? As long that there is no proof, i believe Kurt commited suicide.

One, learn how to f*cking type, second, having taken enough Herion to kill a small horse which makes it hard to believe he could even lift a damn gun let alone actually use it and there not being any fingerprints found on the gun that killed him is not something you are just suposed to shrug off.

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Originally Posted by atthedayofwhales

From what I can remember of the whole situation, there were no cover-up or conspiracy theories the first few days or even the first few years after it happened. I think that's because no one was really surprised that he did it. I was a little shocked and definitely saddened, but I don't think anyone was looking around saying, "Kurt Cobain,..............suicide?, Wait, no, there's definitely something wrong here.'

Wrong.

And no one gets all the information on the first f*cking day, you think because they ruled it suicide on the first day without having a full fledged investigation means they're right and can't be proven wrong? How old are you? 7?

Sparky · 05-05-2007, 08:21 PM

i hate to get to get involved in muder conspiracy's...

But their was also whats-his-face, a guy who worked at some record store or something that knew Kurt and Courtney. He told detectives that courtney was gonna pay him some money if he "blew his ****en head off" he got like 98% on a lie detector test to confirm it.
Not too long after he was apparently killed or something walking home near the creek.

The guy was such a wacko though its hard to beleive he was saying any of that for more then publicity.

Theres also the whole kurts handwriten doesnt match on the "suicide note" (some think it wasnt a suicide note at all, but a mere signing off on the music buisness letter to his fans)

i still beleive it was suicide, not that i even care all that much anymore anyway

edit: Eldon "EL DUCE" Hoke was the guys name =/

atthedayofwhales · 05-05-2007, 08:32 PM

uh, no. I'm just saying if many other of the biggest stars in the world had died from an alleged suicide, say Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, the pope, Bill Clinton, Madonna (1994) If any of them had allegedly killed themself, I think a lot of people would have suspected foul play. I wouldn't totally rule out that it's impossible there was foul play w/ Kurt Cobain. I'm just saying he's an exception to the rule, where if ahuge star on top of the world kills themself, it's not a huge surprise with him. And, then, you always have a few conspiracy theorists looking to make a quick buck, and exploiting the unfortunate tragedy. It's just sad.

boo boo · 05-05-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

i hate to get to get involved in muder conspiracy's...

But their was also whats-his-face, a guy who worked at some record store or something that knew Kurt and Courtney. He told detectives that courtney was gonna pay him some money if he "blew his ****en head off" he got like 98% on a lie detector test to confirm it.
Not too long after he was apparently killed or something walking home near the creek.

The guy was such a wacko though its hard to beleive he was saying any of that for more then publicity.

Theres also the whole kurts handwriten doesnt match on the "suicide note" (some think it wasnt a suicide note at all, but a mere signing off on the music buisness letter to his fans)

i still beleive it was suicide, not that i even care all that much anymore anyway

edit: Eldon "EL DUCE" Hoke was the guys name =/

Yeah, the last part of his note was in completely different handwriting, as if it could have been an older note with some extra words added in to give it new context.

The handwriting has also been proven to be indentical to Courtneys handwriting, theres proof in the pudding.

boo boo · 05-05-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by atthedayofwhales

uh, no. I'm just saying if many other of the biggest stars in the world had died from an alleged suicide, say Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, the pope, Bill Clinton, Madonna (1994) If any of them had allegedly killed themself, I think a lot of people would have suspected foul play. I wouldn't totally rule out that it's impossible there was foul play w/ Kurt Cobain. I'm just saying he's an exception to the rule, where if ahuge star on top of the world kills themself, it's not a huge surprise with him. And, then, you always have a few conspiracy theorists looking to make a quick buck, and exploiting the unfortunate tragedy. It's just sad.

How many celebrities are there who have "killed themselves" and there has since been allegations of foul play? Marylin Monroe, Kurt Cobain and more recently Anna Nicole Smith, thats it.

As for everyone else, no conspiracies emerged about them, no conspiracies emerged about Ernest Hemmingway, or Van Gogh, or Ian Davis.

atthedayofwhales · 05-05-2007, 08:53 PM

Well, obviously the media wasn't as massive in Van Gogh and Hemingway's day, and thus they wouldn't have been able to exploit it as much, not to mention the investigations and forensics weren't nearly asadvanced. I won't comment on Ian Davis, since I don't know who that is.

boo boo · 05-06-2007, 12:43 AM

Lol @ me, I meant to say Ian Curtis, the singer for Joy Division.

I don't know where Davis came from.

Blain · 05-06-2007, 02:11 AM

Isn't it a well know fact that Ian commited suicide anyway? I dunno, I've never acctually researched that topic.

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Originally Posted by boo boo

How many celebrities are there who have "killed themselves" and there has since been allegations of foul play? Marylin Monroe, Kurt Cobain and more recently Anna Nicole Smith, thats it.

As for everyone else, no conspiracies emerged about them, no conspiracies emerged about Ernest Hemmingway, or Van Gogh, or Ian Davis.

And Tupac

tttsss · 05-06-2007, 02:46 AM

It's irritating to see the kids running around mocking the idea of Nirvana. Most young people who are still running around with the shirts on, don't have a clue about what Nirvana was. I went through a big Nirvana phase. I hate to call it that, but I have noticed that Nirvana represented the way that I felt at the time. When I got older, the lyrics no longer registered. Nirvana was a truly great band. They catered to a specific audience without knowing what they were doing.

tttsss · 05-06-2007, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by banonbush

eww. Alice in Chains is terrible. If any of you have never heard them, don't ever. Crash, as of now, i don't respect your musical opinions. Try harder next time to impress me.

alice in chains is one of those bands that has a song you love that you can never remeber the name to, but when you look it up, you realize that you love the entire album.

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05-05-2007, 08:21 PM	#1542 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	i hate to get to get involved in muder conspiracy's... But their was also whats-his-face, a guy who worked at some record store or something that knew Kurt and Courtney. He told detectives that courtney was gonna pay him some money if he "blew his ****en head off" he got like 98% on a lie detector test to confirm it. Not too long after he was apparently killed or something walking home near the creek. The guy was such a wacko though its hard to beleive he was saying any of that for more then publicity. Theres also the whole kurts handwriten doesnt match on the "suicide note" (some think it wasnt a suicide note at all, but a mere signing off on the music buisness letter to his fans) i still beleive it was suicide, not that i even care all that much anymore anyway edit: Eldon "EL DUCE" Hoke was the guys name =/

05-05-2007, 08:32 PM	#1543 (permalink)
atthedayofwhales Groupie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 22	uh, no. I'm just saying if many other of the biggest stars in the world had died from an alleged suicide, say Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, the pope, Bill Clinton, Madonna (1994) If any of them had allegedly killed themself, I think a lot of people would have suspected foul play. I wouldn't totally rule out that it's impossible there was foul play w/ Kurt Cobain. I'm just saying he's an exception to the rule, where if ahuge star on top of the world kills themself, it's not a huge surprise with him. And, then, you always have a few conspiracy theorists looking to make a quick buck, and exploiting the unfortunate tragedy. It's just sad.

05-05-2007, 08:53 PM	#1546 (permalink)
atthedayofwhales Groupie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 22	Well, obviously the media wasn't as massive in Van Gogh and Hemingway's day, and thus they wouldn't have been able to exploit it as much, not to mention the investigations and forensics weren't nearly asadvanced. I won't comment on Ian Davis, since I don't know who that is.

05-06-2007, 02:46 AM	#1549 (permalink)
tttsss Groupie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4	It's irritating to see the kids running around mocking the idea of Nirvana. Most young people who are still running around with the shirts on, don't have a clue about what Nirvana was. I went through a big Nirvana phase. I hate to call it that, but I have noticed that Nirvana represented the way that I felt at the time. When I got older, the lyrics no longer registered. Nirvana was a truly great band. They catered to a specific audience without knowing what they were doing.