Goddamn learn how to write.

Also, how does Courtneys father not getting along with her prove that she didn't have anything to do with Kurts death again?

Why dosen't he get along with her? Ever figured it might be because shes a crazy destructive bitch?

And if they really did get along, and everything was just fine and dandy, then what real reason did Kurt have to kill himself?

CobainCase.Com - The Kurt Cobain Murder Investigation by Tom Grant
We'll never know, but think about this....
In that documentary mentioned aboved, there was an interview with a guy who claimed to be offered 50 grand to kill Kurt.
(A week after that interview, he died.....heh.)
The gun Kurt "shot himself" with, had NO FINGERPRINTS.
Every gun I've ever shot, had plenty of prints on the
trigger when I was done...
He was already incapacitated, due to the lethal amounts of heroin he injected himself with....(or someone injected into him.)
Even though it is possible to stay conscious with that much morphine in the blood, it would only be for a minute or two.
He would have died from the overdose, so why bother with the gun?
Here's your probable answers:
1. He injected himself, and immediately shot himself (while miraculously rubbing the prints off at the same time.
This is really the only possible way he could have done it, regardless of prints or not.)
2. He may have been getting getting doped up with someone, and they purposely gave him enough to knock him out. (then staged a suicide.)
3. Someone may have forced him to inject himself. (or forcefully injected him, then staged a suicide.)
4. Him and Courtney may have been getting doped up, he did too much, she thought he would die and that she would be suspected,
so she staged a suicide...

Either way, we wont know.

P.S. Did I mention that the suicide note,
(which only had like 3 or 4 lines in it that talked about suicide..), wasn't entirely in his handwritting? (<--not that reliable)
What about the fact that he locked himself in a room with a gun once,
to get AWAY from Courtney?
What about the lyrics to his last song, which oddly enough, could be used to describe his life with Courtney?
Also the fact, that they were written a few days before his death....
(Could be his final goodbye, indicating that he may have wanted to die...)
Who knows....
Anyway, hopefully I've gotten my point across.
It's more likely that he either had help, or someone "helped" him along.

Guys kurt was stressed about whatever, he had "severe" stomach problems mixing those with drugs doesn't help either.....So many times Courtney found Kurt laying on the floor so stoned to the point of death, she even revived him after awhile. I say drugs,stomach pains, stress, and one bullet by his own doing killed him....Anything else is just a rumor.

I really doubt someone would kill themselves because of stomach pains, he could have gotten treatment for that for f*cks sake.

He did, he cancelled tour dates to go to a doctor, even they didn't know what to do. In his diary he even came up with names for this "unknown" disease.....He took drugs becaus eit was the only thing thta stopped the pain.....Geez read a book.

I wouldn't put doing drugs and cancelling shows on the same level as killing yourself dude.

I wouldn't either.....Trying to prove a point against the whole murder thing :p :)

And you have failed to give one good reason why it's not a good possibility that he was.

Loser, that wasmy original point, that he definitely killed himself. He basically suffered from severe depression his whole life, and success didn't ease the burden. In fact, many people think it actually made it worse + here are some of the lyrics from his songs:
Look on the bright side; suicide,-Milk It
and the whole, You Know You're Right practically reads like a suicide note.
Listen to the song, Something in the Way, it doesn't really sound like someone who is thrilled with life.

Loser with an alternate account?

Writing songs about suicide is not any proof or indication that you will actually take your own life, no one in Suicidal Tendacies has killed themselves.

lawl.

Its not.

Roger Waters, Frank Zappa, David Bowie, Eddie Vedder, Nortorious B.I.G., Ozzy, Les Claypool, they all wrote songs about suicide, and none of them killed themselves.

lawl one sided examples ftw!

I'm saying it dosen't automatically prove a damn thing.

I know there are examples of people who have wrote songs about suicide and killed themselves, like Ian Curtis.

What do you want from me?....I'm giving you stuff right from the book which is a biography of his life with actual interviews with family members...Pick it up and read it, you'll see.

He has had many biographies on his life, with all different perspectives, they're all biased one way or another.

I'm convinced; Courtney did it.

Goddamn I hate you people.

That wasn't meant to prove anything other than that Loser made a really bad example, which he did.

Sorry but i think he killed himself. There are no proofs he was murdered. And what the ****? Sorry but everyone can commit suicide even Kurt Cobain. If you feel miserable and sad and you don't want to live anymore you do it anyway if you have the courage. I believe the cops if they say he killed himself.
Ok courtney could have done it. But do you have any proof? As long that there is no proof, i believe Kurt commited suicide.

From what I can remember of the whole situation, there were no cover-up or conspiracy theories the first few days or even the first few years after it happened. I think that's because no one was really surprised that he did it. I was a little shocked and definitely saddened, but I don't think anyone was looking around saying, "Kurt Cobain,..............suicide?, Wait, no, there's definitely something wrong here.'

One, learn how to f*cking type, second, having taken enough Herion to kill a small horse which makes it hard to believe he could even lift a damn gun let alone actually use it and there not being any fingerprints found on the gun that killed him is not something you are just suposed to shrug off.

Wrong.

And no one gets all the information on the first f*cking day, you think because they ruled it suicide on the first day without having a full fledged investigation means they're right and can't be proven wrong? How old are you? 7?

i hate to get to get involved in muder conspiracy's...

But their was also whats-his-face, a guy who worked at some record store or something that knew Kurt and Courtney. He told detectives that courtney was gonna pay him some money if he "blew his ****en head off" he got like 98% on a lie detector test to confirm it.
Not too long after he was apparently killed or something walking home near the creek.

The guy was such a wacko though its hard to beleive he was saying any of that for more then publicity.

Theres also the whole kurts handwriten doesnt match on the "suicide note" (some think it wasnt a suicide note at all, but a mere signing off on the music buisness letter to his fans)

i still beleive it was suicide, not that i even care all that much anymore anyway

edit: Eldon "EL DUCE" Hoke was the guys name =/

uh, no. I'm just saying if many other of the biggest stars in the world had died from an alleged suicide, say Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, the pope, Bill Clinton, Madonna (1994) If any of them had allegedly killed themself, I think a lot of people would have suspected foul play. I wouldn't totally rule out that it's impossible there was foul play w/ Kurt Cobain. I'm just saying he's an exception to the rule, where if ahuge star on top of the world kills themself, it's not a huge surprise with him. And, then, you always have a few conspiracy theorists looking to make a quick buck, and exploiting the unfortunate tragedy. It's just sad.

Yeah, the last part of his note was in completely different handwriting, as if it could have been an older note with some extra words added in to give it new context.

The handwriting has also been proven to be indentical to Courtneys handwriting, theres proof in the pudding.

How many celebrities are there who have "killed themselves" and there has since been allegations of foul play? Marylin Monroe, Kurt Cobain and more recently Anna Nicole Smith, thats it.

As for everyone else, no conspiracies emerged about them, no conspiracies emerged about Ernest Hemmingway, or Van Gogh, or Ian Davis.

Well, obviously the media wasn't as massive in Van Gogh and Hemingway's day, and thus they wouldn't have been able to exploit it as much, not to mention the investigations and forensics weren't nearly asadvanced. I won't comment on Ian Davis, since I don't know who that is.

Lol @ me, I meant to say Ian Curtis, the singer for Joy Division.

I don't know where Davis came from.

Isn't it a well know fact that Ian commited suicide anyway? I dunno, I've never acctually researched that topic.

And Tupac;)

It's irritating to see the kids running around mocking the idea of Nirvana. Most young people who are still running around with the shirts on, don't have a clue about what Nirvana was. I went through a big Nirvana phase. I hate to call it that, but I have noticed that Nirvana represented the way that I felt at the time. When I got older, the lyrics no longer registered. Nirvana was a truly great band. They catered to a specific audience without knowing what they were doing.

alice in chains is one of those bands that has a song you love that you can never remeber the name to, but when you look it up, you realize that you love the entire album.

I have to agree that courtney did not kill Kurt. It's absurd. However, anyone who ever read about Kurt Cobain would know that he was never on top of the world. He was in pain and if he did kill himself, there was legitimacy behind it.

The noose around his neck was a bit of a giveaway

Somebody else could have hung him though.

I never said the heroin killed him the amount he took probably impaired his desicion making and shot the gun. The sergeon that did the autopsy of Kurt said this and I quote "all of the evidence pointed to a suicide" and another detective dismisses any type of conspericy theory. And Mark Lanegan who was a friend of Kurts said this in Rolling Stones magazin ""I never knew [Cobain] to be suicidal. I just knew he was going through a tough time." And another thing his drug addiction, stomach pains (at one point became soo bad he actually tried to kill himself), depression, instability before his fame and the suicide note are proof something you haven't delivered. Ohh and check this out I found this quote from Heavier Than Heaven about his Heroin use 'This is the only thing that's saving me from blowing my head off right now."

^^ Your debating skills are pretty terrible.

Indeed.

Ooh, that was cold *shivering*

They might be bad but noone has came up with an argument over what I said.

You used a quote saying that he WASN'T suicidal to support your point that he DID kill himself. I really don't even feel the need to argue with that.

Which one? They all deal with him commiting suicide.