200 greatest guitarists in rock (lyrics, lead singer, effects, solo, quote)

boo boo · 08-12-2008, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FireInCairo

I'm half and half on this matter but is that genre even really deserving? Not to mention that technique is pretty damn easy to acquire if you have time and patience
of the three i think satriani is probably better...he has the better melodic sense and much more interesting use of his technique*
*midnight for example, which is a good tune, with an unconventional two hand chordal tapping approach, which also has a killer melody.
vai on the other hand plays fast wanky noise..

I think its a rather uncreative genre, with no restraint and very little emotional depth

I'm trying to be objective here, I'm not excluding genres that I feel are creatively inferior, I'm trying to represent every genre of rock music and measuring how much guitarists have contributed to their genre, I admit my rankings are not THAT well thought out and could use some work though, but I don't really care about a precise order as much as just plain acknowledgement.

FireInCairo · 08-12-2008, 06:58 AM

To me clapton is awful and should never have been as highly regarded as he is...not arguing with his influence or status
just his run of the mill blues technique with an amped up sound...someone like jeff beck how actually pushed boundaries at much the same time is infinitely more interesting

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I'm trying to be objective here, I'm not excluding genres that I feel are creatively inferior, I'm trying to represent every genre of rock music and measuring how much guitarists have contributed to their genre, I admit my rankings are not THAT well thought out and could use some work though, but I don't really care about a precise order as much as just plain acknowledgement.

I get what you mean
I was trying to go by your criteria but i think my bias got in the way
Malmsteen at least is fairly unoriginal...randy rhoades was the first metal/shred style guitarist to my knowledge who attempted to put some classical influences in
not to mention the prog guys

boo boo · 08-12-2008, 07:04 AM

Clapton... awful?

Say wuh?

And Malmsteen is not unoriginal, he pretty much started the whole neoclassical shred thing. Though Blackmore deserves some of the credit for that as well. And as cliche as it is today, taking neoclassical influences and applying it to electric guitar was a pretty novel idea back in the day.

FireInCairo · 08-12-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Clapton... awful?

Say wuh?

And Malmsteen is not unoriginal, he pretty much started the whole neoclassical shred thing. Though Blackmore deserves some of the credit for that as well. And as cliche as it is today, taking neoclassical influences and applying it to electric guitar was a pretty novel idea back in the day.

ah blackmore! forgot about him
granted, you're probably right there...

clapton...a personal opinion...just never thought the man deserved his kudos in the face of much more interesting guitarists
to me its just sub par bb king rehashed as rock music

Double X · 08-12-2008, 08:03 AM

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Why? Justify yourself classicist!

Morello is all little tricks and most of his solos sound the same.

boo boo · 08-12-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Double X

Morello is all little tricks

You could apply that to anybody, music is all about trickery.

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and most of his solos sound the same.

I can understand someone saying that about his riffs but certainly not his solos, his solos are always unique.

boo boo · 08-12-2008, 08:23 AM

Well the way I put it you could interpret it however you want.

People that rant about Morellos effects are like all those kids who whine about drummers that use pro tools. It's not how you do it it's what you do with it.

Double X · 08-12-2008, 09:32 AM

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You could apply that to anybody, music is all about trickery.

I know, but I am saying that's why he is not as good as Allman or Clapton, I am not saying that he is bad. Top 50 probably.

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I can understand someone saying that about his riffs but certainly not his solos, his solos are always unique.

I always liked his riffs. While the lead singer (DeRosa? I forget) spit angry lyrics acted like 'the brain', Morello was the backing rhythm a lot but really more like soul of the song. The singer always seemed to say what the guitar was trying say.

The solos...eh. I always thought they sounded the same, none were that memorable for me (Bulls is great though).

SATCHMO · 08-12-2008, 10:30 AM

More than anything else Morello was very innovative in his technique and an very creative guitarist.I think we'll be seeing more of his influence in the future than we do today

Whatsitoosit · 08-12-2008, 10:52 AM

It's one small strum for man... one giant influence for mankind.

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SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	More than anything else Morello was very innovative in his technique and an very creative guitarist.I think we'll be seeing more of his influence in the future than we do today