The Flying Luttenbachers (jazz, metal, rock, genre, album)

Mordoth · 09-25-2008, 06:18 PM

Any Luttenbacher fans? They are personally one of my all-time favorites. They have successfully combined jazz with black metal. Everyone I've mentioned them to either loves 'em or hates 'em. If you like unique, you'll love the FL.

I call it black jazz.

Muzak · 09-25-2008, 07:13 PM

Very cool band. I only have the album Systems Emerge From Complete Disorder.

Mordoth · 09-26-2008, 01:36 PM

I wish they would tour down south. I've always loved their style. There is truly nothing like them.

jackhammer · 09-26-2008, 03:48 PM

..any links?

Mordoth · 09-26-2008, 04:25 PM

MotherLuttenbaching Gold

This was from '06, with almost an entirely new cast.

Satan: 1 Jesus: 0

They actually have a myspace.

jackhammer · 09-26-2008, 04:43 PM

I can't hear any Jazz in their music. They can be quite atonal at times but it is amateurish at best. If you are going to fuse two disparate genres, then you must be at least compotent at both. They are good at neither. The drummer has talent but you need to get some John Zorn down you son.

~~The Unfan~~ · 10-14-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I can't hear any Jazz in their music. They can be quite atonal at times but it is amateurish at best. If you are going to fuse two disparate genres, then you must be at least compotent at both. They are good at neither. The drummer has talent but you need to get some John Zorn down you son.

I have the opposite problem. I can hear some jazz elements, but not the black metal. It has weird time signatures (and sometimes even seems to lack any time what so ever), it uses lots of dissonance, some very perculiar chord progression, but I can't make out the black metal of it. Its just really loud poorly distorted free jazz tossed under a wall of feedback. Free-noise perhaps?

jackhammer · 10-14-2008, 01:42 PM

I agree on the Black Metal aspect but having weird time signatures means that Music is often unfairly lumped in as Jazz. The Free-noise moniker is quite apt. It does'nt matter how experimental Jazz gets, there is still an underlying musical dexterity which i cannot hear in this band.

Muzak · 10-15-2008, 09:18 PM

this stuff to me is more Technical Noise Rock/core type thing.

**Janszoon** · 07-29-2011, 05:39 PM

In the past few weeks I have been really getting into these guys. They have some truly amazing stuff but they're one of those bands that you really can't get a good grip on by watching a YouTube video, you need to listen to a whole album.

As far as some of the comments in this thread go: FL are associated with jazz because they started off as a jazz/punk band and one of the founding members was Chicago free jazz sax and trumpet player Hal Russell. He was in his 60s at the time—pretty cool old guy! I'm not sure where the black metal comparisons are coming from, I don't hear it personally.

Anyway, even though I just warned against judging them by YouTube videos, here's a little bit of studio material from them since everything else in this thread seems to be low quality live recordings (and maybe Jackhammer will take note of the underlying musical dexterity and give them a second chance

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09-25-2008, 06:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mordoth Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: KRIEG Posts: 84	The Flying Luttenbachers Any Luttenbacher fans? They are personally one of my all-time favorites. They have successfully combined jazz with black metal. Everyone I've mentioned them to either loves 'em or hates 'em. If you like unique, you'll love the FL. I call it black jazz. __________________ Truth.

09-26-2008, 01:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mordoth Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: KRIEG Posts: 84	I wish they would tour down south. I've always loved their style. There is truly nothing like them. __________________ Truth.

09-26-2008, 03:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	..any links? __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

09-26-2008, 04:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mordoth Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: KRIEG Posts: 84	MotherLuttenbaching Gold This was from '06, with almost an entirely new cast. Satan: 1 Jesus: 0 They actually have a myspace. __________________ Truth.

09-26-2008, 04:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I can't hear any Jazz in their music. They can be quite atonal at times but it is amateurish at best. If you are going to fuse two disparate genres, then you must be at least compotent at both. They are good at neither. The drummer has talent but you need to get some John Zorn down you son. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

09-25-2008, 07:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Muzak Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,050	Very cool band. I only have the album Systems Emerge From Complete Disorder.

10-14-2008, 01:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I agree on the Black Metal aspect but having weird time signatures means that Music is often unfairly lumped in as Jazz. The Free-noise moniker is quite apt. It does'nt matter how experimental Jazz gets, there is still an underlying musical dexterity which i cannot hear in this band. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

10-15-2008, 09:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Muzak Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,050	this stuff to me is more Technical Noise Rock/core type thing.

07-29-2011, 05:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	In the past few weeks I have been really getting into these guys. They have some truly amazing stuff but they're one of those bands that you really can't get a good grip on by watching a YouTube video, you need to listen to a whole album. As far as some of the comments in this thread go: FL are associated with jazz because they started off as a jazz/punk band and one of the founding members was Chicago free jazz sax and trumpet player Hal Russell. He was in his 60s at the time—pretty cool old guy! I'm not sure where the black metal comparisons are coming from, I don't hear it personally. Anyway, even though I just warned against judging them by YouTube videos, here's a little bit of studio material from them since everything else in this thread seems to be low quality live recordings (and maybe Jackhammer will take note of the underlying musical dexterity and give them a second chance ): __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm