Metallica

**Janszoon** · 03-05-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Song about Dragons by Fierce Beast

Home; Valhala by Jesus I wish it was 780

and

Pan Flute of Utter Destruction by the Allen Parsons Project

TheBig3 · 03-05-2009, 02:34 PM

oh thank god you laughed, all too often because get to calling me a **** and take it the wrong way.

Rainard Jalen · 03-05-2009, 02:53 PM

i can't tell - raindog, are you a big metalica fanatic or a staunch critic?

**Janszoon** · 03-05-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

oh thank god you laughed, all too often because get to calling me a **** and take it the wrong way.

Well, we're from the same land so I think that's why I usually get your tone.

pahuuuta · 03-06-2009, 08:16 AM

we went from discussing on here about whats better 80s or 90s metallica to dragon thrash? lol

TheBig3 · 03-06-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

i can't tell - raindog, are you a big metalica fanatic or a staunch critic?

Well I'm a fan but I'm not deaf. I also don't approach things with that germanic all-or-nothing approach.

Entire CD's rarely suck, expecially from such high end bands. St. Anger was pretty bad, and I listened to it maybe a few times but I also recognize a couple things from it...

1. They tried to give their fans what they wanted

2. That nothing else sounds like St. Anger so it can be junked and parts can be taken to build something cooler.

3. A lot of the timing and the production while odd, was pretty good. I think there was a great degree of forethought that led to both bad decisions and a lack of focus on areas that didn't make it into the original concept but those pieces can be salvaged and redone.

Bob Dylan always said Jerry Garcia could find the best stuff in his worst songs. I think in this "one mans trash is another mans treasure" philosophy that St. Anger had a lot to give as an instructional disc, rather than somethign thats enjoyable to listen to.

Kirk not taking solos was a mistake.

Psychotherapy for lyrics was a mistake.

But at least three of the members of Metallica are tremendous players, not becuase of sheer skill but because of the coutnerpuntal interplay, they can compliment each other in ways that supergroups, which are just collections of great players, can't because no one knows how to step back.

And while some of his work on AJFA was brilliant (double bass work), Lars has his stength in knowing that he should lay back and support the other guys. Anyone whos worked on any sort of team knows you get further making assists than you do trying to make the limelight.

In other news, I'd love to hear words from the "metallica are pussies" crowd on their favorite bands, but you never wil because the flash in the pan cookie monster convention that is Metal Music can't string 3 words together without it being bookended by the words "****ing" and "awesome*"

*Substituets include: Brutal, sick, nuts, amazing.

pahuuuta · 03-06-2009, 10:31 AM

yeah i have to agree saint anger was pretty horrible, there worst album i must say.

TheBig3 · 03-06-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pahuuuta

yeah i have to agree saint anger was pretty horrible, there worst album i must say.

I don't mean to come off rough, but feel free to run long in the letters. I think most folks would agree with you but don't leave em guessing.

Why do you think it sucks?

Mojo · 03-06-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

1. They tried to give their fans what they wanted

With St. Anger? You really think so?

Grunge_Junkie · 03-06-2009, 11:23 AM

i think they sound the same in every song.

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