The Official Grunge Thread

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by All_Tomorrows_Parties

Grunge has maintained a certain following amongst high school students through the years. I could be wrong, but I would guess this is because for the kids who are inclined to listen to rock music over rap, pop, etc., there hasn't been a really huge movement to come along that these kids could claim as their own. By this I don't mean that there haven't been popular rock acts, but no band has exploded and changed rock music in the mainstream to such an extent since Nirvana in '91. Rap-rock became popular when I was in high school, but this was a very shortlived trend and actually sounds more dated than music made nearly ten years earlier.

That's an interesting take on it. I've wondered if the high school kids who are into grunge today are kind of like the equivalent of the kids who were really into classic rock when I was in high school. Though I have to say I don't really remember those kids attaching any particular ideology to the music they listened to.

[Surell]

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

that's because Judas Priest sound dated as fuck.

Still good though.

[mr dave]

Originally Posted by Ahem

Mr. Dave:

Wow... That was a great comment.

About the not caring, I really did mean to just come here, say what's on my mind, and leave. So while I was writing, I didn't even expect comments or anyone reading it for that matter.

I'm tired of defending music. I like how it sounds and that's all there is to it.

then what would have been the point in even typing it?

what music has even been discussed in this thread in order to be defended? you like how 90s rock sounds. great! same here, in fact the bulk of the cds i own are 90s rock (it's when i had the most disposable income).

again, if you really didn't care. why are you so defensive?

as for ATPs comment - no single band has changed the course of popular music since nirvana because the internet changed the way the masses deal with popular music shortly thereafter. it's not possible for a band to have that sort of mainstream impact anymore when everything gets leaked digitally and made disposable to the point of not even having a physical presence most of the time.

[Ahem]

Originally Posted by mr dave

then what would have been the point in even typing it?

what music has even been discussed in this thread in order to be defended? you like how 90s rock sounds. great! same here, in fact the bulk of the cds i own are 90s rock (it's when i had the most disposable income).

again, if you really didn't care. why are you so defensive?

I've answered this atleast 3 times now...

[LoathsomePete]

No I'm also curious as to why you're so defensive. In my experience I've found that when I get overly defensive about something it's usually because I have this niggling doubt in the back of mind that I'm not enjoying it as much as I've convinced myself. If you enjoy your must so much then a bunch of faceless people really shouldn't be able to evoke such a defensive emotion in you.

[All_Tomorrows_Parties]

Originally Posted by mr dave

then what would have been the point in even typing it?

what music has even been discussed in this thread in order to be defended? you like how 90s rock sounds. great! same here, in fact the bulk of the cds i own are 90s rock (it's when i had the most disposable income).

again, if you really didn't care. why are you so defensive?

as for ATPs comment - no single band has changed the course of popular music since nirvana because the internet changed the way the masses deal with popular music shortly thereafter. it's not possible for a band to have that sort of mainstream impact anymore when everything gets leaked digitally and made disposable to the point of not even having a physical presence most of the time.

My point wasn't really why or how this happened. People had been discussing how it was strange that kids today were still listening to grunge. I was merely offering a take on why that might be. The kids today who are interested in rock music don't really have a movement of their own, because no one band or style is really big right now the way they used to be.

[Ahem]

Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect

No I'm also curious as to why you're so defensive. In my experience I've found that when I get overly defensive about something it's usually because I have this niggling doubt in the back of mind that I'm not enjoying it as much as I've convinced myself. If you enjoy your must so much then a bunch of faceless people really shouldn't be able to evoke such a defensive emotion in you.

First of all, you can't base an argument off of how you are.
And I'm not being overly defensive. If I were to leave right now, I'd throw this entire argument in the trash. People started an argument, I answered, they answered, and if people keep expecting an answer back, I'm answering. So don't tell me not to argue by arguing...

[Guitar Zero]

it was a rant, but you know - it's just him saying what's on his mind and I thought it was good. We've heard it before, but everyone has their own angle. It's like punk - its like all music. Technically speaking, you cant define it with one word because it's far too deep and is fuzzed out by the hype and post-modern gaze surrounding everything now. We're far more conscious of it all too.

Interesting times...

[mr dave]

Originally Posted by All_Tomorrows_Parties

My point wasn't really why or how this happened. People had been discussing how it was strange that kids today were still listening to grunge. I was merely offering a take on why that might be. The kids today who are interested in rock music don't really have a movement of their own, because no one band or style is really big right now the way they used to be.

right, and what i'm saying is the reason no band is capable of leading a movement like that anymore is because the internet directly changed the way people deal with music. bands and record labels keep trying to catch up but they're still dry humping the corpse of how pop music worked since the 70s.

[Dr_Rez]

Originally Posted by mr dave

bands and record labels keep trying to catch up but they're still dry humping the corpse of how pop music worked since the 70s.

Unfortunately they still get all the money. Of coarse after they have given a cut to ticketmaster.