The Official Grunge Thread (techno, rock, Nirvana, member, quote)

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Ahem

Hey come on I just said I'm not stereotyping here.

Out of curiosity, how old are you? I ask because every fanatical grunge fan were get here seems to be too young to have even been born back when grunge was having any kind of impact and I'm trying to figure out this bizarre pattern.

[Ahem]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Out of curiosity, how old are you? I ask because every fanatical grunge fan were get here seems to be too young to have even been born back when grunge was having any kind of impact and I'm trying to figure out this bizarre pattern.

Haha I know what you mean. But I'm 21. Grunge is about exactly what teens (that I know) connect to. I just happened to hold on to It, which actually isn't all that special considering the age of band members.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Ahem

Haha I know what you mean. But I'm 21. Grunge is about exactly what teens (that I know) connect to. I just happened to hold on to It, which actually isn't all that special considering the age of band members.

Well, you may just be the oldest grunge fan to post here then. Even still that makes you, what, three when Nevermind was released? Not that there's anything wrong with listening to older music or anything, but I find it strange that grunge would have any kind of appeal to people after the fact.

[Ahem]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Well, you may just be the oldest grunge fan to post here then. Even still that makes you, what, three when Nevermind was released? Not that there's anything wrong with listening to older music or anything, but I find it strange that grunge would have any kind of appeal to people after the fact.

Well, even if someone wasn't alive when it came out, my view is that it sounds good. I love Maiden but I wasn't there in the 80s enough to be there. It's like the word people use: classic. Just not for everybody.

Also, nevermind wasn't the only album. It was just the most famous. Which is actually one of the reasons for Kurts' decision (and please don't let anyone talk about his suicide- it was his choice, he made, who cares?)

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Ahem

Well, even if someone wasn't alive when it came out, my view is that it sounds good. I love Maiden but I wasn't there in the 80s enough to be there. It's like the word people use: classic. Just not for everybody.

Also, nevermind wasn't the only album. It was just the most famous. Which is actually one of the reasons for Kurts' decision (and please don't let anyone talk about his suicide- it was his choice, he made, who cares?)

LOL. I was in high school at the peak of the whole grunge thing, I realize that Nevermind wasn't the only grunge album. It was the album that made grunge big though.

Like I said, my surprise about younger grunge fans doesn't have anything to do with the idea of people listening to older music, I listen to plenty of music that's older than me myself. It's just that grunge was such a manufactured thing I find it amazing that it could appeal to anyone outside of the very narrow demographic that it was originally aimed at.

[Automatic Slim]

Janzoon said to Ahem:

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Well, you may just be the oldest grunge fan to post here then. Even still that makes you, what, three when Nevermind was released? Not that there's anything wrong with listening to older music or anything, but I find it strange that grunge would have any kind of appeal to people after the fact.

Don't know about who the oldest grunge fan to post here is, but I was in college back when grunge was taking off. Although I'm more a fan of metal, I love certain grunge bands: Alice In Chains, Tad, Melvins (often called grunge), Willard, Mother Love Bone, and Soundgarden. When the mood hits, I enjoy Nirvana and Stone Temple Pilots. I never enjoyed the slew of 'garage' (for lack of a better word) grunge bands (e.g. Green River), though Mudhoney was not bad.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

Don't know about who the oldest grunge fan to post here is, but I was in college back when grunge was taking off. Although I'm more a fan of metal, I love certain grunge bands: Alice In Chains, Tad, Melvins (often called grunge), Willard, Mother Love Bone, and Soundgarden. When the mood hits, I enjoy Nirvana and Stone Temple Pilots. I never enjoyed the slew of 'garage' (for lack of a better word) grunge bands (e.g. Green River), though Mudhoney was not bad.

Okay, oldest grunge fan award goes to you I guess.

It's not surprising for me to encounter people in their 30s who like grunge, what I think is so strange is the teenage kids who crop up here on a regular basis and are fanatical grunge fans. That's really what I was getting at with the post you're quoting.

[Automatic Slim]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

It's not surprising for me to encounter people in their 30s who like grunge, what I think is so strange is the teenage kids who crop up here on a regular basis and are fanatical grunge fans. That's really what I was getting at with the post you're quoting.

Somewhat odd, I guess. Maybe grunge is enjoying some type of 'retro' stylishness with some teenagers because it's no longer 'cool'. On the other hand, is it any odder than the teenage Megadeth, and Metallica fans who weren't around when those bands were in their prime?

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

Somewhat odd, I guess. Maybe grunge is enjoying some type of 'retro' stylishness with some teenagers because it's no longer 'cool'. On the other hand, is it any odder than the teenage Megadeth, and Metallica fans who weren't around when those bands were in their prime?

Yeah, I do think it's odder actually because metal tends to be more of a continuum that exists to a large extent outside of trends. Not that metal doesn't have its movements and whatnot, it obviously does, but it seems like metal fans usually like a long line of metal extending back to the 70s regardless of whether it's in out or out of style. The young grunge fans we get here, on the contrary, often have a total fixation on grunge and very little interest in the music that inspired it or the music that came after it. I find that really perplexing.

Edit: Also, I don't think I've ever seen a metal fan, or anyone else for that matter, post the kind manifesto about their favorite-type-of-music-as-a-cultural-movement the way we see grunge fans do.

[mr dave]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

It's not surprising for me to encounter people in their 30s who like grunge, what I think is so strange is the teenage kids who crop up here on a regular basis and are fanatical grunge fans. That's really what I was getting at with the post you're quoting.

same here. that's why i made the comment about assumptions earlier in the thread. i see something about the prominent music style of my youth i'm going to check it out, and what do i get?

a manifesto about how we are in regards to a bunch of marketing terms.

if grunge wasn't about fashion why is it the first thing listed? if one 'truly' doesn't care about something why do they spend any amount of effort discussing it?

i don't remember anyone around me dressing the parts. then again people had been wearing flannel for decades prior. cheeseballs in big cities have always played dress up.

the use of the 'grunge' term went away as quickly as it was established. 'alternative' and 'alt-rock' soon became the standard terms to define the style.

as for the rebellious attitude. WHAT? when? if anything the grunge generation was one of the most apathetic and depressed ones out there.

if you want to establish your own identity by hiding behind my generation's cultural costume then that's your prerogative. we will just have to agree to disagree on what grunge is / was. the fact that you bring up that parenting book shows that you're still coming to grips with your own identity. you are living up to the title after all, you're the one telling us how it is, how we are, just like a boss...