The Official Grunge Thread

[Megadead2]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

AiC doesn't fit in with the other grunge bands either. (Does Soundgarden either?) I always considered them some type of metal, except their EPs.

Awesome. Between Pitchfork, other music boards, and here, I have now heard someone somewhere argue that each member of the grunge "Big Four" is not, in fact, grunge. :P

[scottsy]

Hehehehe... how easy it is to explain musical genres and subgenres out of existence...

[Automatic Slim]

Originally Posted by Megadead2

Awesome. Between Pitchfork, other music boards, and here, I have now heard someone somewhere argue that each member of the grunge "Big Four" is not, in fact, grunge. :P

Well, 'grunge' is a slippery genre. I cannot find common stylistic elements between all the bands which are lumped under 'grunge'. What do Stone Temple Pilots and Green River have in common stylistically? Or Pearl Jam and the Melvins? Not much. If Katatonia had come from Seattle in the 1990's, they'd probably have been called grunge.' Grunge' is an almost uselessly broad term that lumps all sorts of dissimilar bands together.

Since I've waded into the subgenre waters this far , how about adding a bunch of subgenres to grunge:
1. traditional grunge: Mudhoney, Green River
2. heavy grunge: Tad, My Sister's Machine
3. sludge grunge: Melvins, Willard
4. pop grunge: Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, and any 'post-grunge' band
5. doom grunge: Alice In Chains, Temple of the Dog, 'Ten' by Pearl Jam

No, I'm not serious.

[SATCHMO]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

Well, 'grunge' is a slippery genre. I cannot find common stylistic elements between all the bands which are lumped under 'grunge'. What do Stone Temple Pilots and Green River have in common stylistically? Or Pearl Jam and the Melvins? Not much. If Katatonia had come from Seattle in the 1990's, they'd probably have been called grunge.' Grunge' is an almost uselessly broad term that lumps all sorts of dissimilar bands together.

Since I've waded into the subgenre waters this far , how about adding a bunch of subgenres to grunge:
1. traditional grunge: Mudhoney, Green River
2. heavy grunge: Tad, My Sister's Machine
3. sludge grunge: Melvins, Willard
4. pop grunge: Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, and any 'post-grunge' band
5. doom grunge: Alice In Chains, Temple of the Dog, 'Ten' by Pearl Jam

No, I'm not serious.

Ahhh....that's fabulous!

[crash_override]

Doom grunge, I like that.

Tad is defiantely one of the most underrated grunge bands. Heavy Grunge never gets love. The bands the successfully bridged the gap between grunge and metal were some of my favorites.

[S_Shinji]

Am I the only person that thinks Ten is a decent album but Vs. is amazing?

[5-Track]

Originally Posted by BTown787

What's up with Superfuzz Bigmuff with 0 votes? I wouldn't rank at as the best but damn you need to show some respect for what Mark Arm and Mudhoney did for the Grunge scene not only with Mudhoney but Green River.

I think it is appropriate to the spirit of the non-movement that became known as "grunge" that the best album it spewed forth should get a zero rating in a poll on an internet music discussion forum

[5-Track]

Originally Posted by S_Shinji

Am I the only person that thinks Ten is a decent album but Vs. is amazing?

You are not alone.

[5-Track]

Originally Posted by Automatic Slim

I don't really consider Melvins grunge, but they're often lumped in with the Seattle scene

I recall reading once a long time ago that the Melvins invented grunge by switching from being the fastest band around to the slowest, more-or-less overnight. Of course, I may have read that in ROLLING STONE, so take it how you will.

[Zer0]

Originally Posted by S_Shinji

Am I the only person that thinks Ten is a decent album but Vs. is amazing?

I agree with you there, VS is my favourite PJ album. Ten might have the bigger hits but did contain some meh tracks like Oceans and Garden. VS is a far more consistant album overall, and it contains Rearviewmirror!