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Darkest Hour 05-05-2009 08:53 PM

What sub genre do you hate?
 
What metal sub genre do you hate, and why?

I personally hate doom metal and black metal.

Doom metal because the vocals totally suck and the songs are boring. Also, most doom metal sounds kind of depressing to me.

Black metal because the riffs are annoying and boring, and the overall sound of the music is too dark for my tastes.

I can honestly say i hate these two with a passion because i have yet to listen to a single song from either sub genre because it sucked so bad. Discuss!

Rage Against the Machine 05-05-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 653311)
Doom metal because the vocals totally suck and the songs are boring. Also, most doom metal sounds kind of depressing to me.

Hmm.

boo boo 05-05-2009 09:02 PM

I know a lot of people are gonna say power and prog, but at least that stuff has comedy value.

I'm a passionate hater of all things black metal.

thisWARisours 05-05-2009 09:16 PM

Black/death/doom.

That pretty much covers it lol.

I hate doom cause it's just so boring and depressing.

I hate black because it's just evil and the instruments sound horrible.

I hate death cause of the vocals that are so appalling.

Darkest Hour 05-05-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thisWARisours (Post 653322)
Black/death/doom.

That pretty much covers it lol.

I hate doom cause it's just so boring and depressing.

I hate black because it's just evil and the instruments sound horrible.

I hate death cause of the vocals that are so appalling.

great minds think alike, haha!

The Unfan 05-05-2009 09:25 PM

I have yet to hear a decent nu-metal band. For the most part I hate metalcore, chugga chugga breakdown chugga chugga doesn't quite do it for me.

I don't get the doom metal hate at all. Black Sabbath anyone?

Darkest Hour 05-05-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 653328)
I have yet to hear a decent nu-metal band. For the most part I hate metalcore, chugga chugga breakdown chugga chugga doesn't quite do it for me.

I don't get the doom metal hate at all. Black Sabbath anyone?

besides black sabbath dude, of course.

But hey, not all metalcore has ****ty breakdowns, i'm not a fan of breakdowns either, but in some songs i like them. I'm surprised you didn't mention metalcore vocals, alot of core haters don't like the choruses and all that, lol.

IWP 05-05-2009 09:32 PM

Black Metal - The whole dark atmosphere via ****ty production and repetative riffing isn't really appealing to me. Plus the whole "if it's popular, it sucks" concept of most fans is pretty retarded, imo.

Hardcore Punk - This music is just so anti-musical in an attempt to sound rebellous, it amuses me.

Deathcore - Pig squeals, boring "br00tal" chugigng riffs, and drum wankery, oh my!

Grindcore - Again, this style is so anti-musical, and there's almost no melody at all in this music, which is what I mainly look for in good music.

Nu-Metal - Pretty much a whole bastardzation of the whole metal genre, the attempt to sound angry and pissed off while rapping to down-tuned "riffs" is pretty humorous.

Darkest Hour 05-05-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IWP (Post 653331)
Black Metal - The whole dark atmosphere via ****ty production and repetative riffing isn't really appealing to me. Plus the whole "if it's popular, it sucks" concept of most fans is pretty retarded, imo.

Hardcore Punk - This music is just so anti-musical in an attempt to sound rebellous, it amuses me.

Deathcore - Pig squeals, boring "br00tal" chugigng riffs, and drum wankery, oh my!

Grindcore - Again, this style is so anti-musical, and there's almost no melody at all in this music, which is what I mainly look for in good music.

Nu-Metal - Pretty much a whole bastardzation of the whole metal genre, the attempt to sound angry and pissed off while rapping to down-tuned "riffs" is pretty humorous.

then what genre do you like?

Norg 05-05-2009 09:51 PM

people who dont like Black metal because its "evil" makes me sctrach my head .......... and u call yourself metal fans when yall say that it makes u sound like a wuss

i tend to not like alot of punk bands and Scottish bands ..............

thisWARisours 05-05-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 653340)
people who dont like Black metal because its "evil" makes me sctrach my head .......... and u call yourself metal fans when yall say that it makes u sound like a wuss

i tend to not like alot of punk bands and Scottish bands ..............

I mean, it's not like I hate music that talks about killing, brutal murder, stuff like that is fine. But when their purpose is to hate and ****ing burn churches of my religion, then I say I hate it. Plus, it sounds like **** so it's not like I would like it anyway lol.

Dave Mustaine is Christian though, nuff said.

But yeah, the guy who said he hates deathcore, grindcore...I agree lol.

I only really like thrash, heavy, and melodic metalcore.

Linkin Park's first album was good nu-metal.

Darkest Hour 05-05-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thisWARisours (Post 653349)
I mean, it's not like I hate music that talks about killing, brutal murder, stuff like that is fine. But when their purpose is to hate and ****ing burn churches of my religion, then I say I hate it. Plus, it sounds like **** so it's not like I would like it anyway lol.

Dave Mustaine is Christian though, nuff said.

But yeah, the guy who said he hates deathcore, grindcore...I agree lol.

I only really like thrash, heavy, and melodic metalcore.

Linkin Park's first album was good nu-metal.

quit being a puss and listen to parkway drive tears. What songs do you like from them anyways dawg?!!! I know they don't sing or anything but they aren't that heavy.

I agree, i hate anti religion lyrics. Even though i am not religious i think it is wrong.

thisWARisours 05-05-2009 10:30 PM

My friend actually just like nagged me about Parkway lol.

Carrion is my favorite, Breaking Point has some awesome guitar, and those are the only two that I can actually distinguish lol.

Btw, if you are into thrash at the moment, new thrash band that's sick!
YouTube - Lazarus A.D. - Who I Really Am

Darkest Hour 05-05-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thisWARisours (Post 653357)
My friend actually just like nagged me about Parkway lol.

Carrion is my favorite, Breaking Point has some awesome guitar, and those are the only two that I can actually distinguish lol.

Btw, if you are into thrash at the moment, new thrash band that's sick!
YouTube - Lazarus A.D. - Who I Really Am

i like lazarus man, i was listening to them last night. Good stuff.

Breaking point is one of my favorite songs by parkway but there are so many good songs like it, like the sirens song and 5 months. Carrion is kind of boring, but it was my favorite as well until i discovered there heavier stuff.

The Unfan 05-05-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 653330)
besides black sabbath dude, of course.

But hey, not all metalcore has ****ty breakdowns, i'm not a fan of breakdowns either, but in some songs i like them. I'm surprised you didn't mention metalcore vocals, alot of core haters don't like the choruses and all that, lol.

How about similar bands to Black Sabbath like Pentagram, Witchfinder General and Reverend Bizarre?

I actually don't mind the melodic singing in the chorus if its done well. Its really just the guitar work in metalcore that bugs. The chugga riffs more so than the breakdowns but I find that breakdowns often kill the pace of a song.

Darkest Hour 05-06-2009 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 653397)
How about similar bands to Black Sabbath like Pentagram, Witchfinder General and Reverend Bizarre?

I actually don't mind the melodic singing in the chorus if its done well. Its really just the guitar work in metalcore that bugs. The chugga riffs more so than the breakdowns but I find that breakdowns often kill the pace of a song.

haha, describe what you don't like about the guitar work in metalcore, i don't understand. What are chugga riffs?

The Unfan 05-06-2009 12:27 AM

The riffs that sound like they could be breakdowns but used more for verses.

45 seconds to 'til about 1:05 in this song is a good example. Its just short of being a breakdown but fits the song structure better. They use the riff again right after the chorus. Seriously, I'd like this band if not for that nonsense, but those kind of riffs are the most annoying thing to come out of a guitar imo.

Darkest Hour 05-06-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 653401)
The riffs that sound like they could be breakdowns but used more for verses.

45 seconds to 'til about 1:05 in this song is a good example. Its just short of being a breakdown but fits the song structure better. They use the riff again right after the chorus. Seriously, I'd like this band if not for that nonsense, but those kind of riffs are the most annoying thing to come out of a guitar imo.

all i can say is that song is terrible. Got another song you can link me to that is similar?

The Unfan 05-06-2009 01:05 AM

1:43-whenever is a display of the chugga chugga riff thing. Its a riff (and I mean a riff, they always sound exactly the same) that every metalcore band uses and it always manages to completely ruin whatever song its inserted into. I typically like Whats He Building In There? but god damn that riff annoys me to no end.

Darkest Hour 05-06-2009 01:12 AM

dude, that's the moshing sound that most metalcore uses in there songs. It's strictly put in there for moshing i believe, and it doesn't bother me at all. You're right though, almost all of them sound the same, no matter what song they are in.

I thought those chugga riffs came from hardcore anyways, i'm not sure but that is what i always thought.

The Unfan 05-06-2009 01:18 AM

Really? It does the exact opposite for me. Its so dull and lacks energy that it makes me want to go do something else, like sit in a chair and drink some tea. Seriously, how does one mosh to that?

Darkest Hour 05-06-2009 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 653411)
Really? It does the exact opposite for me. Its so dull and lacks energy that it makes me want to go do something else, like sit in a chair and drink some tea. Seriously, how does one mosh to that?

i love my riffs fast but it doesn't bother me much.

Here, tell me if you notice it in this song. I'm trying to figure out if we are talking about the same thing here.


The Unfan 05-06-2009 01:27 AM

Almost immediately. 15 or seconds into the song.

Edit: Jesus ****ing Christ 1:00 into the song has confirmed that this has to be the worst song in the universe.

Edit Again: Actually this entire song is like one big gigantic obnoxious breakdown.

The Unfan 05-06-2009 01:37 AM

I still question how that is moshy at all. Its the most ho-hum lazy riff ever. If ever there were a riff that could influence synchronized sleeping that would be it.

Darkest Hour 05-06-2009 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 653414)
Almost immediately. 15 or seconds into the song.

Edit: Jesus ****ing Christ 1:00 into the song has confirmed that this has to be the worst song in the universe.

Edit Again: Actually this entire song is like one big gigantic obnoxious breakdown.

they are more hardcore, that's why they use those breakdowns all the time. They have some very good riffs in pretty much all of their songs though, i'm not a huge fan of that song either to be honest.

Zer0 05-06-2009 03:59 AM

Probably deathcore or whatever you call it. Complete utter boring overrated sh!te. I hate a lot of modern hardcore aswell, it's boring and every band sounds the exact same.

FireInCairo 05-06-2009 04:11 AM

It seems we have an over saturation of ****ty identikit metal sub-genres. Surprise.



- Soft rock: no needs that much schmalz
- Modern Nashville Country: see above
- Post-grunge
- anything based around lord of the rings.

Adonai 05-06-2009 05:44 AM

I really hate goregrind/coprogrind

Thrice 05-06-2009 07:23 AM

Dont like slutcore, sciencecore, softcore, whorecore, or applecore. I like rockandrollcore though.

I feel ya on the chugga Unfan, not a big fan, but if it is used in a song it should be for a breakdown without the vocals layed on top of it. And I'll bet money that all these bands had moshing in mind when using that. "Oh snap! we forgot to make that repetitive sound so the kids can mosh!"

ZaborgZaloog 05-06-2009 10:34 AM

I really hate the stupid chugga riff, crappy breakdowns and bad screaming in metallcore. And nu-"metal" as a whole.

Antonio 05-06-2009 10:54 AM

i just can't get into most Punk and Black Metal. and not cause of the lyrics or anything, those are probably the last things i look for in a song

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-06-2009 11:10 AM

Soft Rock

I mean why bother rocking at all if you're just going to do it softly?

Norg 05-06-2009 11:18 AM

chugga riff have been around since the dawn of time and any band that usess it must really be a tool

iam pretty sure chugga riffs have been around since the late 70's

IWP 05-06-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 653337)
then what genre do you like?

My taste in music is pretty diverse. I'll listen to just about everything from thrash, power metal (though alot of bands here are pretty generic), and traditonal heavy metal to glam metal, 70s-80s arena rock, progressive rock, and hard rock to house, techno, new wave, and 80s pop.

I also fogot to mention that I hate hip hop/rap and most country, but those aren't rock sub genres so I didn't bother to mention them.

LoathsomePete 05-06-2009 12:21 PM

I can't say I'm a big metalcore fan, just doesn't interest me, everything I've heard sounds pretty generic and follows a strict formula. Nu-metal is also a steaming pile a excrement minus ONE Hypocrisy album.

jackhammer 05-06-2009 12:54 PM

As much as I dislike the endless sub-sub genres there are many bands that I dislike but generally there isn't one area of metal I particulary dislike. I am not keen on some Black Metal but in certain cases I can listen. There is a lot of crap in Grindcore but there is also some damn good stuff too.

Alfred 05-06-2009 01:18 PM

Most metal doesn't really appeal to me.

PinkCigarette 05-06-2009 02:48 PM

Metalcore is the worst **** ever and should be eliminated from this planet. Most of the bands suck and most of the songs are lame and annoying.

khfreek 05-06-2009 02:53 PM

Death/deathcore are the only two genres that I completely write off. Awful stuff.

thisWARisours 05-06-2009 03:03 PM

Wow, so I finally know what you guys mean when you say chugging riffs!

And now I know that that is the reason I love the metalcore that I do, chugging riffs are perfect!

And that song Blackout is tight.


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