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The Cat 05-08-2009 02:46 PM

Rock/Metal Albums That Still Sound New
 
Dont know if this thread wil work! i have been thinking about old(er) albums that if released today would still feel fresh or ground breaking, i think this should only apply to albums that are 10 years old or older. So i will start it off with these three

Rage Against The Machine - Rage Against The Machine (1992)
http://www.ugo.com/music/best-album-...he-machine.jpg
Still as inovative and original as it was when it was released in 1992

Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales (1984)
http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAud...e/98/88998.jpg
Not Tecchnically a thrash metal album but still sounds great today 25 years after its first release and IMO the best album they made, Dethroned Emperor one of my top tracks of the genre

The Doors - The Doors (1967)
http://www.stonewallvets.org/images/songs_5/doors_h.jpg
Years ahead of its time..i would have loved to have been around when this was released even hearing it in its entirity some 20 years after its first release it sounded unique and original.

Zer0 05-08-2009 03:07 PM

I suppose the best example would be Slayer - Reign In Blood, it could have been recorded yesterday or any time within the past 23 years. It hasn't dated a bit compared to other metal albums released in 1986 such as Master Of Puppets.

lucifer_sam 05-08-2009 03:17 PM

ah, i don't have that Celtic Frost album! here's some of mine:

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/n/n...album-scum.jpg
20 years old and still relevant on music today.

http://a2.vox.com/6a00b8ea067a51dece...8dfad3b4-500pi
in a competition between RHCP and FNM this little bastard easily beats the best the Chili Peppers have to offer.

The Cat 05-08-2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 655337)
I suppose the best example would be Slayer - Reign In Blood, it could have been recorded yesterday or any time within the past 23 years. It hasn't dated a bit compared to other metal albums released in 1986 such as Master Of Puppets.

I Agree with the Slayer but i dont think that Master of Puppets has dated it is my favorite album of the big 4 of that year...agreed thet Reign in Blood is a more groundbreaking and unique album.

The Cat 05-08-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 655338)
ah, i don't have that Celtic Frost album! here's some of mine:

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/n/n...album-scum.jpg
20 years old and still relevant on music today.

http://a2.vox.com/6a00b8ea067a51dece...8dfad3b4-500pi
in a competition between RHCP and FNM this little bastard easily beats the best the Chili Peppers have to offer.

Sorry for double posting! could not get the two qoutes on...

Come On! Faith No Mores Angel Dust better than anything the chilis can offer....Napalm Death though Awesome!

Maybe we should just use debut albums as that the first time you hear the band, so in that respect the debut Faith No More album is very good:thumb:

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-08-2009 03:52 PM

Didn't even need to think about this

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9.../VVNFfront.jpg

Zer0 05-08-2009 04:00 PM

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/r/r...-12-bursts.jpg

This album is still ahead of it's time

The Cat 05-08-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 655351)
Didn't even need to think about this

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9.../VVNFfront.jpg

Oh so agreed and i get to see them live next month! but do you not think Killing Technology was a more original break for them?

lucifer_sam 05-08-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Cat (Post 655342)
Sorry for double posting! could not get the two qoutes on...

Come On! Faith No Mores Angel Dust better than anything the chilis can offer....Napalm Death though Awesome!

Maybe we should just use debut albums as that the first time you hear the band, so in that respect the debut Faith No More album is very good:thumb:

FNM's first album was an atrocity, they still had Chuck Moseley on vocals. but Angel Dust really is that good, with none of the overblown crap you'll find on any of RHCP's records.

and i'm not a Mike Patton fan per se, i don't really care for Mr. Bungle or anything he did in the last ten years, but i can recognize a funky masterpiece when i hear one. :thumb:

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-08-2009 04:06 PM

Well I bought Nothingface when it came out. I didn't end up getting Killing Technology till ....ohh last Saturday :o:

I had heard a couple of their earlier albums before I got Nothingface , they were alright but I didn't really rate them that highly, so really it was Nothingface that I identified with the most.

I'll let you know what I think of Killing Technology when I finally get around to hearing it, but it has some big shoes to fill.

lucifer_sam 05-08-2009 04:25 PM

it is quite the grower. i haven't gotten around to listening to anything other than Killing Technology but i like it enough.

LoathsomePete 05-08-2009 04:38 PM

http://www.metalkingdom.net/album/img/d43/3142.jpg

Not many bands are able to blend extreme metal with industrial undertones like Strapping Young Lad was. This album came out in 1997 and it still blows new stuff out of the water.

jackhammer 05-08-2009 04:53 PM

http://www.academyannex.com/blog/wp-...ostpandeLP.jpg

Orchestral textures, Drum Machines, Juxtaposing vocal styles. This is hugely underated too. Was this the first Avant Garde Metal album? Quite possibly.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-08-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 655383)
Was this the first Avant Garde Metal album?

Even if it isn't it's the best one i've ever heard.

In fact it was my 2nd choice for this thread.

Janszoon 05-08-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 655338)
http://a2.vox.com/6a00b8ea067a51dece...8dfad3b4-500pi
in a competition between RHCP and FNM this little bastard easily beats the best the Chili Peppers have to offer.

Oh without a doubt. One of the best albums of the 90s easily.

jackhammer 05-08-2009 05:16 PM

Ministry-Psalm 69. The Land of Rape and Honey is better but for this thread it fit's better. Opening with N.W.O it still sounds phenomenal to this day.

http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%2...Psalm%2069.jpg

The Cat 05-08-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 655360)
FNM's first album was an atrocity, they still had Chuck Moseley on vocals. but Angel Dust really is that good, with none of the overblown crap you'll find on any of RHCP's records.

and i'm not a Mike Patton fan per se, i don't really care for Mr. Bungle or anything he did in the last ten years, but i can recognize a funky masterpiece when i hear one. :thumb:

I'm sorry but i dont recall hearing any overblown crap on any chili's album's! and i am a fan of Faith No More!

scottsy 05-09-2009 09:57 PM

I gotta put my vote in for October Rust by Type O Negative..... still sounds as fresh today as the first time I heard it.... I am a permanent fan of that album, methinks...

polyphonic 05-14-2009 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 655337)
I suppose the best example would be Slayer - Reign In Blood, it could have been recorded yesterday or any time within the past 23 years. It hasn't dated a bit compared to other metal albums released in 1986 such as Master Of Puppets.

That's funny... I was going to say Slayer-"God Hates Us All"

But I have to disagree with you on that one... Reign in Blood is dated in my mind because of 80's style vocals in the mix... way more so than Master of Puppets!

...but I suppose that's purely based off of vocals

...and they're are new bands coming out with 80's-esque style vocals...

...but they suck... lol

the 80's sucks.

(me so funny)

Zer0 05-14-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polyphonic (Post 658890)
That's funny... I was going to say Slayer-"God Hates Us All"

But I have to disagree with you on that one... Reign in Blood is dated in my mind because of 80's style vocals in the mix... way more so than Master of Puppets!

...but I suppose that's purely based off of vocals

...and they're are new bands coming out with 80's-esque style vocals...

...but they suck... lol

the 80's sucks.

(me so funny)

??????????????

I don't think they sound like 80's vocals. The vocals on Show No Mercy and Hell Awaits are certainly very 80's but on Reign In Blood they stripped off the reverb and that's one of the main reasons why Reign In Blood sounded so cutting-edge at the time

As for the 80's sucking??
Psshhhhhhhh :nono: NO! A lot of really great music came out of the 80's

jackhammer 05-14-2009 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 658908)
??????????????

I don't think they sound like 80's vocals. The vocals on Show No Mercy and Hell Awaits are certainly very 80's but on Reign In Blood they stripped off the reverb and that's one of the main reasons why Reign In Blood sounded so cutting-edge at the time

As for the 80's sucking??
Psshhhhhhhh :nono: NO! A lot of really great music came out of the 80's

I agree entirely. The first two Slayer albums are ridiculously outdated but Reign in Blood sounds like is was reorded yesterday. Sepultura's Schizophrenia is one of the best 80's Thrash albums but sounds dated too.

The Cat 05-14-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 659035)
I agree entirely. The first two Slayer albums are ridiculously outdated but Reign in Blood sounds like is was reorded yesterday. Sepultura's Schizophrenia is one of the best 80's Thrash albums but sounds dated too.

Ok Show No Mercy does sound very dated..and Hell Awaits does not sound as new as Reign in Blood, but you have to agree that Hell Awaits is one of the best tracks Slayer have done and also one of the greatest album openers...what a build up!

jackhammer 05-14-2009 02:21 PM

Yeah but the rest of Hell Awaits is awful :( The title track is the balls though yeah.

SortaGuy 05-14-2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pobodys_Nerfect (Post 655375)
Not many bands are able to blend extreme metal with industrial undertones like Strapping Young Lad was. This album came out in 1997 and it still blows new stuff out of the water.

definitely with you on that one.

lucifer_sam 05-14-2009 10:42 PM

on an unrelated note am i the only one that thinks Reign in Blood isn't Slayer's best work? both South of Heaven and Seasons in the Abyss struck me more strongly.

LoathsomePete 05-14-2009 11:05 PM

I'm with you on Seasons in the Abyss, it was second Slayer album and I think it had a more profound effect on me than Reign in Blood did.

polyphonic 05-15-2009 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 659393)
on an unrelated note am i the only one that thinks Reign in Blood isn't Slayer's best work? both South of Heaven and Seasons in the Abyss struck me more strongly.

I'm with you except, I'm only familiar with "God Hates Us All"

judging from the last few posts maybe I should update my slayer...

but it might make me feel better if i got that advice from someone who shared my taste in music... new metal and stuff... no 80's vocals

I can't help it.
I came from the 80's so I'm can't hate on it that much
but c'mon guys..you gotta let it go!

Janszoon 05-15-2009 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 659393)
on an unrelated note am i the only one that thinks Reign in Blood isn't Slayer's best work? both South of Heaven and Seasons in the Abyss struck me more strongly.

I like Reign in Blood and Season in the Abyss about equally. Always thought South of Heaven was kind of overrated though. I mean it has it's moments but something about it just doesn't click with me.

polyphonic 05-15-2009 12:42 AM

okay... so just as a point of reference, where does god hates us all fall into that?

Janszoon 05-15-2009 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polyphonic (Post 659442)
okay... so just as a point of reference, where does god hates us all fall into that?

I've never heard it so I'm not sure. I did see them on that tour though and my impression of the songs was good but not great. Maybe about the same quality level as South of Heaven or possibly slightly better, but not nearly as good as Reign in Blood or Seasons in the Abyss.

The Cat 05-15-2009 07:17 AM

Seasons in the abyss is a very good album, i rate South of heaven very highly as a Slayer release, but it hard a hard act to follow with Reign in blood..i think thats why it took a while to grow on me, i was expecting more from it initially as i was waiting for it to be released...i am getting old!

SystemRob 05-15-2009 08:43 AM

Iron Maiden's "A Matter of Life and Death" fulfils this category i think

Comus 05-15-2009 11:09 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...layofPower.jpg

This album is still as extraordinarily heavy as it was when it was realeased. It still crushes my skull.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-15-2009 11:38 AM

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...ness_280_8.jpg

The band Pantera wish they were as good as :D

sidewinder 05-15-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comus (Post 659595)
Pantera Vulgar Display of Power[/IMG]

This album is still as extraordinarily heavy as it was when it was realeased. It still crushes my skull.

Good call. I'd say Far Beyond Driven fits the bill as well. Gotta spin these again soon.

lucifer_sam 05-15-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 659431)
I like Reign in Blood and Season in the Abyss about equally. Always thought South of Heaven was kind of overrated though. I mean it has it's moments but something about it just doesn't click with me.

South of Heaven overrated?

that's the one that got critically panned because they took stuff downtempo on it. even today it's definitely not a fan favorite. if anything i'd say it's their most underrated release. they improved their melodic sense for both those albums and the songs show it.

Seasons in the Abyss is definitely on par with Reign in Blood, and the songs are far catchier.

jackhammer 05-15-2009 12:52 PM

Christ Illusion was a brilliant comeback a couple of years back for Slayer. The thing with us oldies championing Reign in Blood so much is that it was genuinely just the best time (at that time) for Metal getting it's biggest transformation ever in 86/87 so you just embraced those albums wholeheartedly and don't want to let them go!

Anthrax-Among The Living
Testament-The Legacy
Death angel-The Ultra Violence
Sepultura-Schizophrenia
Metallica-Master Of Puppets
Napalm Death-Scum
Nuclear Assault-Game Over
Megadeth-Peace Sells..
Slayer-Reign In Blood
Kreator-Terrible Certainty
Death-Scream Bloody Gore
Obituary-Slowly We Rot

all these within 18 months of each other and all still great albums, so any consequent releases had to hold up to these. that's not to say I disliked albums by these bands after this time. Far far from it and as you say Seasons In The Abyss is a damn fine album but it was a certain time and nostalgia probably does play an unconscious part in our tastes.

Janszoon 05-15-2009 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 659631)
South of Heaven overrated?

that's the one that got critically panned because they took stuff downtempo on it. even today it's definitely not a fan favorite. if anything i'd say it's their most underrated release. they improved their melodic sense for both those albums and the songs show it.

Seasons in the Abyss is definitely on par with Reign in Blood, and the songs are far catchier.

Maybe it's just in the circles I travel in but my impression is that Reign in Blood, South of Heaven and Seasons in the Abyss are generally regarded as kind of the holy trinity of Slayer albums. I don't think South of Heaven is up to the level of the other two though, which is why I think it's kind of overrated.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-15-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 659699)
Christ Illusion was a brilliant comeback a couple of years back for Slayer. The thing with us oldies championing Reign in Blood so much is that it was genuinely just the best time (at that time) for Metal getting it's biggest transformation ever in 86/87 so you just embraced those albums wholeheartedly and don't want to let them go!

Anthrax-Among The Living
Testament-The Legacy
Death angel-The Ultra Violence
Sepultura-Schizophrenia
Metallica-Master Of Puppets
Napalm Death-Scum
Nuclear Assault-Game Over
Megadeth-Peace Sells..
Slayer-Reign In Blood
Kreator-Terrible Certainty
Death-Scream Bloody Gore
Obituary-Slowly We Rot

all these within 18 months of each other and all still great albums, so any consequent releases had to hold up to these. that's not to say I disliked albums by these bands after this time. Far far from it and as you say Seasons In The Abyss is a damn fine album but it was a certain time and nostalgia probably does play an unconscious part in our tastes.

That's probably why you're into thrash more than me.
I just missed this lot by about a year - 2 years. the first thrash albums I ended up getting were a lot of the follow ups to a lot of these albums. So they didn't have quite the impression on me as they did with you.

Guybrush 05-15-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 659618)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...ness_280_8.jpg

The band Pantera wish they were as good as :D

I guess you might already know, but in case someone here doesn't, that's Tiny Tim on the cover there .. :laughing:



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