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sidewinder 09-16-2010 12:23 PM

Well we're fucked...Faith No More's reunion tour officially ends December 5th in Chile, WITHOUT A FUCKING US TOUR!!! What the fuck, assholes? :mad: I was SOOOOOOO looking forward to this. The only remaining US date is Hollywood Palladium on November 30th. Aside from that, in the US they've only done 3 dates in San Francisco, Coachella, and 3 East Coast dates. Way to love the fans in your own country, assholes! Had I known that's all they were doing for the US, I would have made an effort to catch one of the San Francisco dates. But I really have no desire to visit LA, especially mid-week.

FUCK!!! :(

::official FAITH NO MORE site:: Tour Dates::
Roddy Bottum (roddybottum) on Twitter (see September 14 post)

Janszoon 09-16-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 932118)
Well we're fucked...Faith No More's reunion tour officially ends December 5th in Chile, WITHOUT A FUCKING US TOUR!!! What the fuck, assholes? :mad: I was SOOOOOOO looking forward to this. The only remaining US date is Hollywood Palladium on November 30th. Aside from that, in the US they've only done 3 dates in San Francisco, Coachella, and 3 East Coast dates. Way to love the fans in your own country, assholes! Had I known that's all they were doing for the US, I would have made an effort to catch one of the San Francisco dates. But I really have no desire to visit LA, especially mid-week.

FUCK!!! :(

::official FAITH NO MORE site:: Tour Dates::
Roddy Bottum (roddybottum) on Twitter (see September 14 post)

Bastards!

TumorAttitude 09-16-2010 03:30 PM

They'll do more shows when they run out of money. We'll just have to wait.

mr dave 09-16-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TumorAttitude (Post 932201)
They'll do more shows when they run out of money. We'll just have to wait.

it took them 10 years to run out of money the first time and they're already middle aged at this point. waiting is not something i'm cool with.

i'm totally with Sidewinder on this one. that's a pretty huge slap in the face to the people in their own backyard.

jackhammer 09-16-2010 06:08 PM

I've already seen them...twice :finger:

In all seriousness though, there are a ton of reasons why many bands (whether reformed or not) don't play more shows in their homeland and it's not always money. Lack of promoters, decent venues available at the right time, record company apathy etc.

Killing Joke tour every couple of years, play 2 dates here and then play many more in the U.S and yes the U.S is obviously larger but their main fanbase is here but it never works out well for us.

Archive are a U.K band but you can't buy their albums here and they rarely tour here either.

The big 4 Thrash fest in the summer was everywhere over Europe but didn't happen in the U.K despite a huge fanbase for the bands.

Necromancer 09-16-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 932271)
it took them 10 years to run out of money the first time and they're already middle aged at this point. waiting is not something i'm cool with.

i'm totally with Sidewinder on this one. that's a pretty huge slap in the face to the people in their own backyard.

I agree, thats the kind of attitude I think Mike Patton ^ presents as an artist, at vocals and on stage.
Sounds suspicious to me..

mr dave 09-19-2010 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 932331)
I agree, thats the kind of attitude I think Mike Patton ^ presents as an artist, at vocals and on stage.
Sounds suspicious to me..

i wouldn't quite say that, the impression i get is that he's most definitely uncompromising in both achieving and getting people to recognize his vision, but i really don't think he's disrespectful to those who are willing to at least consider his perspective. he just doesn't have patience for superficial stupidity.

think about it, how many people going to see FNM in north america would be people who've been waiting and hoping for this chance since 1997 and how many of them are trendy hipsters who were still figuring out how to not poop their pants anymore in 1997 and who just want to be seen at a seminal band's reunion show. but maybe i'm the pretentious old douchebag in this charade.

Violent & Funky 09-19-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 933664)
think about it, how many people going to see FNM in north america would be people who've been waiting and hoping for this chance since 1997 and how many of them are trendy hipsters who were still figuring out how to not poop their pants anymore in 1997 and who just want to be seen at a seminal band's reunion show. but maybe i'm the pretentious old douchebag in this charade.

Dave, I love a good ol' hipster bashin' as much as the next guy but that's really not fair to my generation. We weren't old enough when they first came onto the scene, so now we shouldn't have the opportunity to see them together again, even if I truly enjoy the music?

I probably shouldn't go see Primus either then...

sidewinder 09-20-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 933664)
think about it, how many people going to see FNM in north america would be people who've been waiting and hoping for this chance since 1997 and how many of them are trendy hipsters who were still figuring out how to not poop their pants anymore in 1997 and who just want to be seen at a seminal band's reunion show. but maybe i'm the pretentious old douchebag in this charade.

I really don't see FNM as a band hipsters would really be into, but I could be wrong. That said, I don't know who would be going to see them aside from others like me who have been waiting/hoping since the break-up to have a chance to see them...and whose dreams are now crushed! :(

mr dave 09-20-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 933666)
Dave, I love a good ol' hipster bashin' as much as the next guy but that's really not fair to my generation. We weren't old enough when they first came onto the scene, so now we shouldn't have the opportunity to see them together again, even if I truly enjoy the music?

I probably shouldn't go see Primus either then...

that's why i called myself a pretentious old douchebag at the end :p:

you're also obviously not a hipster plus Primus is still active and if not releasing new material, reworking old stuff to keep it fresh.

compare the clips from the FNM's final tour in '97 and some of the reunion clips from earlier this year. what changed besides the clothes and hairlines? i could easily see enough of an 'underground' buzz about the 'need' to see a seminal band like FNM act as a beacon for hipsters.

that or it might just be expensive as hell to organize a north american reunion tour for a band that only really scored about 3 hits throughout their initial run.

Violent & Funky 09-20-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 933957)
you're also obviously not a hipster

http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dai...10/07/phew.jpg

Nickle Bag 09-21-2010 04:04 PM

I'm not surprised that Faith No More don't have more U.S. tour dates. Most people don't know that they released any albums after THE REAL THING. We can partially thank MTV and Radio for that.

TumorAttitude 09-21-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickle Bag (Post 934360)
I'm not surprised that Faith No More don't have more U.S. tour dates. Most people don't know that they released any albums after THE REAL THING. We can partially thank MTV and Radio for that.

Well, the next album was a tad more experimental but yes. One hit wonder. Curse of the 90s.

sidewinder 09-22-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickle Bag (Post 934360)
I'm not surprised that Faith No More don't have more U.S. tour dates. Most people don't know that they released any albums after THE REAL THING. We can partially thank MTV and Radio for that.

Yeah I agree. Fucking radio, if you hear FNM it's Epic 98% of the time and Midlife Crisis the other 2% if you're lucky.

mr dave 09-22-2010 01:50 AM

Last Cup of Sorrow got all sorts of airplay up here in Canada. i also clearly remember videos for Easy, Stripsearch, I Care A Lot, and Ashes to Ashes. while Epic was by FAR their biggest hit they're hardly a one hit wonder.

Nickle Bag 09-29-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 934657)
Last Cup of Sorrow got all sorts of airplay up here in Canada. i also clearly remember videos for Easy, Stripsearch, I Care A Lot, and Ashes to Ashes. while Epic was by FAR their biggest hit they're hardly a one hit wonder.

Hardly a one hit wonder indeed, sir, indeed!

Nickle Bag 09-29-2010 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 934636)
Yeah I agree. Fucking radio, if you hear FNM it's Epic 98% of the time and Midlife Crisis the other 2% if you're lucky.

Yes. I think your message, and percentages are spot on!

Janszoon 09-29-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 934657)
Last Cup of Sorrow got all sorts of airplay up here in Canada. i also clearly remember videos for Easy, Stripsearch, I Care A Lot, and Ashes to Ashes. while Epic was by FAR their biggest hit they're hardly a one hit wonder.

Yeah, I also remember "Falling To Pieces", "Small Victory", "Evidence" and "Digging the Grave" getting airplay as well.

Queen Boo 01-04-2011 11:56 AM

I didn't really believe you guys about Angel Dust. When I finally listened to it, I expected it to be average. Its great though. They really refined the sound they had on The Real Thing with this album. The weird parts on Angel Dust actually fit.
EDIT: And the lyrics are better.

Janszoon 01-04-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PAVEMENT SAW (Post 979350)
I didn't really believe you guys about Angel Dust. When I finally listened to it, I expected it to be average. Its great though. They really refined the sound they had on The Real Thing with this album. The weird parts on Angel Dust actually fit.
EDIT: And the lyrics are better.

Yeah, it's really the only FNM album that I would describe as having good lyrics.

Queen Boo 01-04-2011 12:48 PM

You arn't joking.

Janszoon 01-04-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PAVEMENT SAW (Post 979380)

Ha! That's nothing. How about the lyrics to "Cuckoo for Caca" of off King for a Day?

Queen Boo 01-04-2011 12:56 PM

I hadn't heard them before but now I am nauseated.

sidewinder 01-06-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PAVEMENT SAW (Post 979380)

Hey now let's not dis Zombie Eaters. :bringit: :yeah:

MC 1989 01-17-2011 10:36 AM

Angel Dust was a killer album but The Real Thing produced there biggest hit.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 01-17-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MC 1989 (Post 986848)
Angel Dust was a killer album but The Real Thing produced their biggest hit.

Hmmm... Well, that's valuable information.

Queen Boo 01-17-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MC 1989 (Post 986848)
Angel Dust was a killer album but The Real Thing produced there biggest hit.

Thats cute but I get more enjoyment out of Angel Dust then The Real Thing. Numbers don't mean shit.

The Batlord 01-20-2011 01:56 PM

I never really knew that much about FNM before but then I bought The Real Thing and Angel Dust a few weeks ago. ****ing awesome. I was just listening to Angel Dust all yesterday.

RockinRaoule 01-24-2011 03:00 PM

Ya "Angel Dust" and "The real thing" are both awesome albums. I think to put FNM in one hit wonder category ain't right. It seems to me that the singer Mike Patton kinda hated the whole rock star status thing and as a result took more obscure approach with Mr. Bungle and Phantomas...

Then again there was a FNM reunion so, maybe I'm wrong and he is just in it for the money and fame.

Queen Boo 01-24-2011 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RockinRaoule (Post 990894)
Ya "Angel Dust" and "The real thing" are both awesome albums. I think to put FNM in one hit wonder category ain't right. It seems to me that the singer Mike Patton kinda hated the whole rock star status thing and as a result took more obscure approach with Mr. Bungle and Phantomas...

Then again there was a FNM reunion so, maybe I'm wrong and he is just in it for the money and fame.

I don't think so but he's an eccentric genius. He can get away with pretty much anything but I think he would've toned it down a bit if he wanted to be ******OMFG RAWK STAR FAYMAUS U GUISE******.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 01-24-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RockinRaoule (Post 990894)
a result took more obscure approach with Mr. Bungle and Phantomas...

Why does nobody realize Bungle predates/runs simultaneously with Faith No More? He was in both bands at the exact same time. He actually joined FNM because of his friendship with the members(Who are actually the ones that informed him of the porno which they use soundbites of Mr.Bungle's self entitled debut album).

Patton's always been about experimental music, and I don't think he likes being creatively restricted. Whether the reunion of FNM was for money or not, it certainly served the greater purpose as it probably funded his side projects.

Then again, apart from Bungle and FNM, I honestly don't feel much of Patton(unless associated with Zorn) goes beyond average. I mean, Fantomas is ok, but feels to me just like a watered down Mr.Bungle fused with a little Naked City.

James 01-24-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 990932)
Why does nobody realize Bungle predates/runs simultaneously with Faith No More? He was in both bands at the exact same time. He actually joined FNM because of his friendship with the members(Who are actually the ones that informed him of the porno which they use soundbites of Mr.Bungle's self entitled debut album).

Patton's always been about experimental music, and I don't think he likes being creatively restricted. Whether the reunion of FNM was for money or not, it certainly served the greater purpose as it probably funded his side projects.

Then again, apart from Bungle and FNM, I honestly don't feel much of Patton(unless associated with Zorn) goes beyond average. I mean, Fantomas is ok, but feels to me just like a watered down Mr.Bungle fused with a little Naked City.

I think Tomahawk is pretty good and that album he did of Italian Pop songs.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 01-24-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 990935)
I think Tomahawk is pretty good and that album he did of Italian Pop songs.

Tomahawk is really more Melvins w/Patton(With an exception of the third album which, if memory serves, was pretty good, I guess), and Mondo Cane is ok. Far less interesting than Zorn's interpretations of Ennio Morricone, but I guess a little closer to the source material.

I will say though, Bungle is still mighty incredible, and it is largely due to Patton's virtuoso vocal talents.

Just feel as a composer he's actually one of the weaker avant-garde artists, and for some reason in a lot of people's minds he monopolizes the genre.

However, Faith No More is brilliant. Angel Dust is an amazing album with an immense amount of depth. It's one of those albums you can't just listen to one or two times, and get the most out of. There's always something to get out of it with repeated listens.

RockinRaoule 01-25-2011 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 990932)
Why does nobody realize Bungle predates/runs simultaneously with Faith No More?

Well I did know that Mr.Bungle was concurrent with FNM... but I did not know it predated it.

I believe that Phantomas was also a project with the Melvins, or at least with Buzz, not sure. I enjoyed Phantomas, and Tomahawk was cool... but I'm a bit whatevery about a lot of Pattons projects aside from FNM.

Howard the Duck 01-25-2011 05:39 AM

i mebbe the only one who dislikes Angel Dust

The Batlord 01-25-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 990937)
However, Faith No More is brilliant. Angel Dust is an amazing album with an immense amount of depth. It's one of those albums you can't just listen to one or two times, and get the most out of. There's always something to get out of it with repeated listens.

Definitely. At first I thought The Real Thing was better, but I find myself listening way more to Angel Dust now. It just doesn't get old.

Roemilca 01-25-2011 01:53 PM

The War Pigs cover on The Real Thing was kind of unneccesary.

sidewinder 01-25-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Roemilca (Post 991417)
The War Pigs cover on The Real Thing was kind of unneccesary.

I think it's a great cover, never bothered me as part of the album. Would have made a great B-side as well, though.

Janszoon 01-25-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 991436)
I think it's a great cover, never bothered me as part of the album. Would have made a great B-side as well, though.

That sums up my opinion of it as well.

Roemilca 01-25-2011 02:52 PM

Maybe it's just me, but it's kind of too similar to the original song for me to want to listen to it over the original.


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