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PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 06-28-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 691275)
Im glad you liked Jimmy's vocals. If you want to hear more singing along side his growls you can check out Haste The Day's 'When Everything Falls' album. Which I have if you would want.

Brennan Chaulk and Michael Murphy did the clean singing on "When Everything Falls" as well as all of their albums up to "Pressure the Hinges" on which Stephen Keech does some clean singing as well. Jimmy Ryan never did any clean singing in HTD. I personally liked "Burning Bridges" a little more. I think the vocals (both singing and screaming) sounded more raw and real.

crash_override 06-29-2009 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe (Post 693377)
Brennan Chaulk and Michael Murphy did the clean singing on "When Everything Falls" as well as all of their albums up to "Pressure the Hinges" on which Stephen Keech does some clean singing as well. Jimmy Ryan never did any clean singing in HTD. I personally liked "Burning Bridges" a little more. I think the vocals (both singing and screaming) sounded more raw and real.

I've seen HTD 7 times live. 3 with Jimmy, he always did the back up vocals on several songs. Along with Devon Chaulk, the drummer. There are some parts, such as the interlude in 'American Love' that require multiple vocal parts. While Brennan and Mike and responsible for clean vocals on when everything falls, as you said, Jimmy and even Devon were always singing live. Stephen now attempts to sing clean vocals as well, which normally doesn't sound all that great, but whatever. They are in town at soma soon, I will be attending my 8th show.

Sodacake 07-01-2009 12:04 PM

I'm surprised Roy Khan's name hasn't come up yet.

Alfred 07-01-2009 12:09 PM

Greg Puciato.

nikki1994 07-02-2009 12:27 PM

alexi laiho --children of bodom (Y) they rule and put a gd performance live aswell :)

S_Shinji 07-07-2009 01:18 PM

Roy Khan is the only real answer

Dr.Seussicide 07-07-2009 03:02 PM

Roy Khan...wow he's epic

Robert Plant :)

Ricochet~kun 07-07-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 700003)
Roy Khan...wow he's epic

Robert Plant :)

:yeah:

c0ncubine 07-08-2009 01:20 AM

I'd have to agree with some others.

Rody Walker from PTR
Roy Khan
Alexi Laiho

The singer of Underoath is pretty good, and yes I am aware the drummer sings back up, clean vocals, but the lead singer does scream/yell and do pretty good clean vocals.

But my all time favorite vocalist, is Maynard James Keenan of Tool/A Perfect Circle... he's just absolutely incredible.

crash_override 07-08-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by c0ncubine (Post 700279)
I'd have to agree with some others.

Rody Walker from PTR
Roy Khan
Alexi Laiho

The singer of Underoath is pretty good, and yes I am aware the drummer sings back up, clean vocals, but the lead singer does scream/yell and do pretty good clean vocals.

But my all time favorite vocalist, is Maynard James Keenan of Tool/A Perfect Circle... he's just absolutely incredible.

You think UnderOath had good voclists? Thats interesting because I've always found it to be the most detesting part of the band.

Dr.Seussicide 07-08-2009 01:40 PM

Maynard does take win...I agree with you completely on that point.

Hesher 07-08-2009 04:25 PM

It doesn't matter how good a vocalist is if they are proud to front a terrible, horrible band.

Antonio 07-08-2009 04:47 PM

i like Slipknot. :)


and blah blah, lack of musical ability, whatever. i like them for their general grooves and aggression.

Hesher 07-08-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 700675)
i like Slipknot. :)


and blah blah, lack of musical ability, whatever. i like them for their general grooves and aggression.

The thirty seconds of drumline break in the middle of The Blister Exists is a surprisingly creative touch that other modern metal groups would do well to take a hint from, and I applaud their use of alternative percussion, but as soon as Corey Taylor's pussy little-boy vocals come back in and Mick Thompson's dull, uninspired, bonehead riffs start up I remember that they wear stupid masks on stage and write terrible songs like New Abortion. IMO the utter retardation of the majority of the band's fans is an ample demonstration of the quality of the music and it's target audience. That's all I have to say.

For what it's worth I think Tool would be better off without Maynard. He doesn't deserve an H.R. Giger mike stand, no matter how ridiculous it looks.

Antonio 07-08-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hesher (Post 700680)
The thirty seconds of drumline break in the middle of The Blister Exists is a surprisingly creative touch that other modern metal groups would do well to take a hint from, and I applaud their use of alternative percussion, but as soon as Corey Taylor's pussy little-boy vocals come back in and Mick Thompson's dull, uninspired, bonehead riffs start up I remember that they wear stupid masks on stage and write terrible songs like New Abortion. IMO the utter retardation of the majority of the band's fans is an ample demonstration of the quality of the music and it's target audience. That's all I have to say.

For what it's worth I think Tool would be better off without Maynard. He doesn't deserve an H.R. Giger mike stand, no matter how ridiculous it looks.

.....did you read my post? i said i don't give a **** about their musical prowess or lack thereof. to me they're good for banging your head to a good groove. i'm not gonna overthink it, sometimes music is just a gut feeling, if you don't want it, don't take it.

c0ncubine 07-08-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hesher (Post 700680)
For what it's worth I think Tool would be better off without Maynard.


I don't understand how you can even say that... as I am pretty sure that any band would gladly have him as a featured artist in a given song, or let him write some of their music...

Hesher 07-08-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 700686)
.....did you read my post? i said i don't give a **** about their musical prowess or lack thereof. to me they're good for banging your head to a good groove. i'm not gonna overthink it, sometimes music is just a gut feeling, duuuuurrrrrr

There are a ton of other good headbanging or groove bands out there that you can listen to while still preserving your dignity... But hey, I used to be big into the Transplants S/T (until I bitchslapped myself into reality).

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Originally Posted by c0ncubine (Post 700691)
I don't understand how you can even say that... as I am pretty sure that any band would gladly have him as a featured artist in a given song, or let him write some of their music...

Honestly I just find his voice annoying and I think it and his lyrics have locked them into an "Alt-Metal" path that has made them permanently the domain of techno-metal crossover Rammstein nerds with trenchcoats and acne. They have more potential than that. They're like the Muse of heavy.

Dr.Seussicide 07-08-2009 05:36 PM

^^ did this guy just say tool would be better off without maynard...and then make a nonsensical derogatory remark about him because of a f**king "mic" (notice how it should be spelled) stand... I must have read wrong...let me peruse that post once more...

Hesher 07-08-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 700700)
^^ did this guy just say tool would be better off without maynard...and then make a nonsensical derogatory remark about him because of a f**king "mic" (notice how it should be spelled) stand... I must have read wrong...let me peruse that post once more...

Sorry to rain on your parade broski, it's just my opinion. You're right, I spelled the abbreviation of microphone wrong, so clearly it's totally invalid and definitely nonsensical.

crash_override 07-08-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 700700)
^^ did this guy just say tool would be better off without maynard...and then make a nonsensical derogatory remark about him because of a f**king "mic" (notice how it should be spelled) stand... I must have read wrong...let me peruse that post once more...

Pretty sure you read correctly, and he did spell mic wrong. But the dude obviously just doesn't like MJK's vox. Whats the big deal, I agree I think he can get a little annoying at times. But to say the band is better off without him is taking it wat too far for me. I'm just kind of meh on Tool in general.

Antonio 07-08-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hesher (Post 700695)
There are a ton of other good headbanging or groove bands out there that you can listen to while still preserving your dignity... But hey, I used to be big into the Transplants S/T (until I bitchslapped myself into reality).

yes, i know that, but that doesn't mean i can't enjoy what they do. it doesn't mean that i have to completely shun their work because they do things or play in a way that isn't that great. they still have good stuff in my opinion.

it seems that you're only dissing Slipknot because of certain pressures that they're a bad band. you'll never be able to fully appreciate music if you're stuck on what other people think about it. if you like music, then you like it, no shame in that.

Dr.Seussicide 07-08-2009 05:54 PM

I think some of you guys reached a point where you think you listen to way too much music that you begin to think that popular underground music is mediocre. If you honestly can't appreciate tool and Maynard's voice; I can't believe that I even muttered that phrase... then I guess go right ahead, lol

Let me give you guys another singer to bash:
Anthony Green

Have fun

Hesher 07-08-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 700704)
yes, i know that, but that doesn't mean i can't enjoy what they do. it doesn't mean that i have to completely shun their work because they do things or play in a way that isn't that great. they still have good stuff in my opinion.

I don't listen to them because I don't like them and I explained why. It's not just that I don't appreciate their image, although that certainly doesn't help.

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 700704)
it seems that you're only dissing Slipknot because of certain pressures that they're a bad band. you'll never be able to fully appreciate music if you're stuck on what other people think about it. if you like music, then you like it, no shame in that.

What do you mean by "Certain pressures"? I think they are a bad band, it's not because I'm under "pressures" to believe that they are. I think that taste only goes so far and that there are other factors that determine whether a band is good or not; in the case of Slipknot, their stage show is indicative of their attitude towards their music and colours their creative process in a way that creates music I dislike. In my opinion, they also write boring riffs and mediocre lyrics.

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 700709)
I think some of you guys reached a point where you think you listen to way too much music that you begin to think that popular underground music is mediocre. If you honestly can't appreciate tool and Maynard's voice; I can't believe that I even muttered that phrase... then I guess go right ahead, lol

"Popular underground" is the most hilarious oxymoron I've ever heard; it's doubly funny because it makes you seem like you're trying to claim that they are underground (aka not pop music) while saying that it doesn't matter that they're popular. That's irrelevant though; it's not about the fact that the band is undoubtedly popular, it's the fact that it's mediocre. I think the more you get into music and the more bands you discover, the more contempt you gain for many popular groups that have obviously undeserved fame considering how many other amazing bands are out there. I constantly wish that a lot of the better bands out there were more popular and were able to make as much money and get as much mainstream respect. At the end of the day though, I don't get along with or agree with the majority of people, and saying that I'm an idiot for not enjoying Maynard's vocals or appreciating Tool because everybody else does is ridiculous.

Dr.Seussicide 07-08-2009 07:19 PM

Of course I knew it was an oxymoron, I was going to include it in parentheses but I found no just justification in doing so. They are a popular underground band, and I justify this by saying that though they aren't mainstream, they are well known in the rock community. Let me give a simple example:

Saetia and Fugazi are popular underground emo bands (because basically everyone who listens to underground emo WILL know them)

Trapdoor F**king Exit and Yfere are more obscure, I hope you understand the distinction.

I know where you're coming from about undeserving artists and bands obtaining more than their fair share, believe me, I understand that contradiction completely and am in utter abhorrence with it as well. But you honestly think that Maynard doesn't deserve it? Even his work with APC is amazing. The only side project I'd agree with you where he isn't at his best is Puscifer. Not too into it.

But dude, Brena still gives me chills... gimme gimme gimme is amazing. Sober is one of the best lyrically written songs. You have to give the man his props dude. He truly is an amazing artist.

bardonodude 07-08-2009 09:54 PM

Aaron Jenkins

Facechewer 07-09-2009 03:56 AM

I think Shagrath from Dimmu Borgir has an excellent vocal style, and he sounds absolutely sick live.

Antonio 07-09-2009 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hesher (Post 700729)
I don't listen to them because I don't like them and I explained why. It's not just that I don't appreciate their image, although that certainly doesn't help.



What do you mean by "Certain pressures"? I think they are a bad band, it's not because I'm under "pressures" to believe that they are. I think that taste only goes so far and that there are other factors that determine whether a band is good or not; in the case of Slipknot, their stage show is indicative of their attitude towards their music and colours their creative process in a way that creates music I dislike. In my opinion, they also write boring riffs and mediocre lyrics.

well my mistake then, from your previous post it seemed like you were trying to force your opinion of them on me like i was at fault with my opinion. but yeah, while those are valid points, i'm sure you can understand that it's not what i always look for in music. it's an important thing, mind you, but sometimes certain stuff has a feeling to it that i can appreciate.

anyway, if you can respect my opinion of them and i can respect yours, then we have nothing further to discuss.

c0ncubine 07-09-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 700519)
You think UnderOath had good voclists? Thats interesting because I've always found it to be the most detesting part of the band.


He's not bad, but I actually forgot to consider their drummer. He is actually a great singer, there are definitely better singers out there but the fact that he can project his voice during some of those crazy fills is actually pretty impressive(go listen to Desperate Times, Desperate Measures)

Darkest Hour 07-09-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by c0ncubine (Post 701151)
He's not bad, but I actually forgot to consider their drummer. He is actually a great singer, there are definitely better singers out there but the fact that he can project his voice during some of those crazy fills is actually pretty impressive(go listen to Desperate Times, Desperate Measures)

howard jones owns all metalcore vocalists. Including the dude from underoath.

crash_override 07-09-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 701163)
howard jones owns all metalcore vocalists. Including the dude from underoath.

No, it's bad enough that you're ignorant and close minded to other genres. Now you're being ignorant when it comes to metalcore? It's almost all you listen to, you should be an expert, not an idiot. Come on man, pull it together. Killswitch Engage is NOT cool.

Darkest Hour 07-09-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 701166)
No, it's bad enough that you're ignorant and close minded to other genres. Now you're being ignorant when it comes to metalcore? It's almost all you listen to, you should be an expert, not an idiot. Come on man, pull it together. Killswitch Engage is NOT cool.

I'm not close minded, KSE is just so much better than the rest. All of killswitch engage's songs are better than almost any other bands best song. I listen to melo-death too, and a whole bunch of core bands....so what. I listen to some rap sometimes as well, so i don't JUST listen to core.

I'd rather not blast cannibal corpse and Deicide out of my speakers because it sounds like it was recorded in a cave and the vocals are horrid. I am not a fan of satan either, so there is no way i am listening to much death metal. It seems like so many respected metal bands these days are atheist satan worshipping weirdo's. I'm a normal person, i dress normal, i look normal, i don't give a **** about the real metal scene. I'll listen to my generic Killswitch engage while all the REAL metalheads headbang to satanic, and poorly recorded music.

Killswitch isn't cool why... because it is generic? That's a pretty stupid reason to say they aren't cool. I think they created their own sound, but whatever.

Facechewer 07-09-2009 06:08 PM

But Death Metal isn't about Satan. It's Black Metal that's about Satan.

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atheist satan worshipping
What.

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Killswitch isn't cool why... because it is generic?
That's actually a pretty reasonable conclusion to come to. Why choose to like one generic metal band over thousands of others?

Hesher 07-10-2009 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 701166)
No, it's bad enough that you're ignorant and close minded to other genres. Now you're being ignorant when it comes to metalcore? It's almost all you listen to, you should be an expert, not an idiot. Come on man, pull it together. Killswitch Engage is NOT cool.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_e92n-YZL3V...20/oh-snap.jpg

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 701174)
I'm not close minded, KSE is just so much better than the rest. All of killswitch engage's songs are better than almost any other bands best song. I listen to melo-death too, and a whole bunch of core bands....so what. I listen to some rap sometimes as well, so i don't JUST listen to core.

This is the funniest thing I've ever read. You're right, KSE is an amazing band and all their songs are better than almost any other bands best songs. I'm totally into mellow-death as well, and I don't think anyone can dispute the fact that being into "core" bands and rap music makes you a very well-rounded individual.

NOT.

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 701174)
I'd rather not blast cannibal corpse and Deicide out of my speakers because it sounds like it was recorded in a cave and the vocals are horrid. I am not a fan of satan either, so there is no way i am listening to much death metal. It seems like so many respected metal bands these days are atheist satan worshipping weirdo's. I'm a normal person, i dress normal, i look normal, i don't give a **** about the real metal scene. I'll listen to my generic Killswitch engage while all the REAL metalheads headbang to satanic, and poorly recorded music.

I'm not a big fan of Deicide or Cannibal Corpse but the majority of good "real" metal isn't poorly recorded and doesn't have "horrid" vocals. They also for the most part are not satanic, especially since you can't both worship satan (a deity) and be atheist at the same time. Either way it doesn't make you any more of a weirdo than the people who metaphorically consume the flesh of their prophet and venerate child molesters. It's hard for me to even dispute your post as it's so ridiculous. What you said just adds to the evidence that you are woefully ignorant of decent music and have the taste of a fourteen-year-old trailer park latchkey kid with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (aka the demographic of KSE's fans). Please, continue to enjoy your non-satanic and amazingly recorded tripe.

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 701174)
Killswitch isn't cool why... because it is generic? That's a pretty stupid reason to say they aren't cool. I think they created their own sound, but whatever.

Picking a name like "Killswitch Engage" doesn't help, but being generic is an excellent reason to say they aren't "cool"... Recycling the popular music of the time is hardly admirable. But your favourite bands list is essentially the lineup of The World's Worst and Most Derivative Music Festival, so I'm not surprised you can't tell.

boo boo 07-10-2009 05:36 AM

I smell a cat fight.

Zoboomafoo 07-16-2009 02:14 AM

Overall, right now I think Rody from Protest the Hero is my favorite vocalist. As far as straight screamers go, John Henry from darkest hour is the best, IMO

morgos 07-16-2009 11:06 AM

I won't pretend to know much about metal, but Brendon Small (dethklok)

Antonio 07-16-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoboomafoo (Post 704551)
Overall, right now I think Rody from Protest the Hero is my favorite vocalist. As far as straight screamers go, John Henry from darkest hour is the best, IMO

yeah Rody is great

The Unfan 07-16-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Facechewer (Post 701207)
But Death Metal isn't about Satan. It's Black Metal that's about Satan.

Typically only tr00 kvlt bull**** overglorifies Satan. So no, not even most good black metal is about Satan.

Sodacake 07-16-2009 08:49 PM

Yeah. Black Metal can be about anything. Folklore, Paganism, etc.

The Unfan 07-16-2009 09:26 PM

Any genre of music can be about anything.


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